Philosophus Vagus
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  • How can a society function with an entire media establishment that is complicit in publishing partisan slander and easily disprovable lies right alongside each other with no accountability whatsoever? After I live through it, maybe I'll make a game based on it. The level of dishonesty at this point just astounds me though.
    Pix3M
    Pix3M
    I speak as someone who is neither liberal nor conservative. Both of those viewpoints believe politics is about finding the truth and making reasonable policy according to available facts. It doesn't work this way, politics is team sports. In politics, your goal is to promote your party's agenda, further your interests, and come out on top.
    Pix3M
    Pix3M
    The media establishment has one bottom line and that's profit. Their job is to grab attention and generate ad revenue. Though, there are some exceptions where some media companies are also used to promote the viewpoints of their owners. The media establishment isn't about finding facts, it's much more complicated than that.
    standardplayer
    standardplayer
    Remember journalist integrity?
    I watched a local Amish community hold a cart and buggy presidential rally that passed by my worksite this afternoon and it really got me thinking...how do the Amish keep up with national news?
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    The Stranger
    The Stranger
    Perhaps they get their news through word of mouth. If not, I wonder if they're happier living in ignorance of worldly events? I know I often feel better after having disconnected from the news and other media.
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    I used to think the latter, but if so why would they care about a national election? And enough to go against the grain of the state they live in (the candidate they were rallying for is not going to win Vermont) and even campaign at that? Clearly they get their non-local news from somewhere, and I think I'm going to have to go strike up a conversation and find out how, my curiosity has been piqued.
    The Stranger
    The Stranger
    Who are the Amish campaigning for?
    "I have nothing to read. I know, I'll go on kindles monthly sales and pick out a couple of 2 dollar books"...150 dollars worth of 2-4 dollar books later "maybe I overdid that a bit."
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    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    @Tai_MT that's a danger as well, several of the 2 dollar books I just bought were actually the first in a series, if one catches my attention I might be down that road to. That's how they get you.
    Tai_MT
    Tai_MT
    Well, for me it was a bit safer. It was already an anime series I enjoyed and was interested in. So, I got the "Light Novels" to fill in details the anime didn't cover as well as to get ahead of the story ;)
    cthulhusquid
    cthulhusquid
    "maybe I overdid that a bit."

    Yeah, like when I bought 20 Phillip K Dick books at $13 each in a single trip...
    Finally got a doctor to see my grandmother (through threats of litigation, sadly that's what it took) for a CT scan today. On the way home they called us and said to go to the ER immediately because she has a pulmonary embolism. Searing from both heat and rage in my car right now because they won't let me in with her, terrible, terrible day.
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    Sharm
    Sharm
    It sounds like your area's medical board is on is on the paranoid side of things, not you. I really don't blame you for being angry and worried about it.
    Wavelength
    Wavelength
    @Philosophus Vagus OK, I'm glad that they admitted your grandma. How is she doing now - any better than a couple days ago?

    I think they're less worried about you contracting COVID, and more worried about the possibility of you spreading it. They don't want to "waste" their limited test kits on every family member that wants to visit, and those are the only semi-reliable way to tell if...
    Wavelength
    Wavelength
    ...an asymptomatic person actually has it. It is SUCH an awful time for anyone who has family members that need medical care (I can't visit my grandma in her nursing home for the same reason, but I thank my lucky stars she's been able to stay out of the hospital). It sucks. But you gotta keep handling it like a champ.
    That feeling when you found a dead guy's coin collection being sold at an estate sale and after the fact you are torn by the feeling of outright stealing from them because the people obviously had no idea what what they were selling was worth, that just gets worse when you get home and realize some of the coins were worth a lot more than you thought they were at the time even.
    Wavelength
    Wavelength
    If you're not doing it out of a sense of greed or profiteering, and you just like the coins... then enjoy them. The guy would probably be happy that someone who appreciates them as much as he did can be the owner.

    My grandpa gave me his (small) coin collection a couple years before he died and it's something I've treasured (and occasionally been able to build up) to this day.
    Shaz
    Shaz
    Don't feel bad at all. Family should have had enough sense to at least question the value. If they didn't, or didn't bother to take the time to look it up, it just means they were more interested in getting rid of his stuff. Keep it. Sell it. Do whatever. But don't feel bad.
    Golden Unicorn Gaming
    Golden Unicorn Gaming
    Whatever your motives, take it and don't feel bad one bit.
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    Kupotepo
    Kupotepo
    @The Stranger, Ahhhh, the new job description! The one who enforce their will upon others.
    I think the field journalists who reported in dangerous places still ok to me. What is the poltical analysis doing? I forget the editor and their boss actually might force them to say that.
    Hollow 1977
    Hollow 1977
    Interesting. I usually do not go with CNN or any serious left or right leaning media. It has to be tied to a newspaper or credible news agency. I try to get the stories without political lean like they were in the old days before politics took over. "Just the facts" LOL. That said still lots of un-social distancing keeping me at home aside from the store and gas station and work.
    Hollow 1977
    Hollow 1977
    It's sad some people don't understand how dangerous the virus is and how contagious it is apparently just talking to someone you can inhale the small droplets.
    My state just joined the thou must wear masks club...funny because masking yourself is also currently a misdemeanor crime. I know they've declared they aren't enforcing that, still, seems that you should really remove the law making something illegal before passing a mandate making it illegal not to do just that thing. This is why our judicial system is such a bloated mess.
    Finnuval
    Finnuval
    Though smoking laws have become more strict since then and is now prohibited almost everywhere including cannabis xD
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    Yeah my state actually has that same law. Most businesses prohibit smoking on the premises period these days but since legalization its technically not illegal to smoke pot in public places unless specifically stated but is for tobacco, but again, most businesses don't distinguish.
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    Another interesting law is that you cannot undress in public, but because topless beaches are kind of a tourist trap here its technically not illegal to just be naked publically. You just have to undress in private. Also billboards are still illegal, which is actually an awesome law that I hope never changes.
    The youtube algorithm introduces me to the weirdest stuff these days. Last week I got bardcore music (which is awesome by the way), this week it is gun metal covers. Stupid as it is, I can't stop listening either. Who thinks to do this, and why is it so euphoric to watch?
    Wavelength
    Wavelength
    Youtube was loading me with Bardcore-style stuff a few weeks ago, too! I think it's a crazy worldwide techno-medieval plot set up by Alphabet Inc. and the ghosts of the Medici family!
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    And I suppose the gun metal stuff is a counter-conspiracy enacted by The ghosts of Thomas Jefferson and Samuel Colt to fight back against the Medici ghost plot to take over the banking system again through bardcore somehow then?
    Wavelength
    The sinking feeling when you realize your grandmother probably isn't long for this world, and the frustration when you know that this pandemic will take her away...not because she has Covid, but because no doctor is willing to see a patient to even run simple diagnostics anymore if one of her symptoms happens to be a recurring fever, even if her primary care physician gives her the test and it comes back negative.
    Kupotepo
    Kupotepo
    @Wavelength, according to @Philosophus Vagus, it is a bad law, not the doctor! That is what the doctor does nowaday to do a video chat. When I get the red-eye, I can see the doctor face to face no problem and if you want to talk with the doctor. The hospital used the google duo. I think it is a different state's law.
    Kupotepo
    Kupotepo
    It sounds like flu which can be a danger for a senior citizen. I hope you find a solution, my friend. :kaoeh: @Philosophus Vagus, I agree with the @Wavelength please wear masks to caution to protect you and your grandmother.
    Finnuval
    Finnuval
    Nothing sensible I can say to that from the other side of the world except I wish you strentgh and hope both you and your grandma pull through this somehow
    Who knew modern medieval was an actual music genre? I don't know what the youtube algorithms are doing but for once they found something actually fascinating:
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    Finnuval
    Finnuval
    good music in decent quality - now that's a rare sight xD
    The Mighty Palm
    The Mighty Palm
    Medieval pumped up kicks is the only version of pumped up kicks I will listen to. "All ye bully-rooks with your buskin boots best ye go, best ye go, faster than mine arrow"
    Kes
    Kes
    I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thank you for posting it.
    Man. A historic 130 year old church nearby had all of its windows broken out with bricks last night. Such a shame, it wasn't generic stained glass patterns either but had beautifully crafted murals depicting various parts of the gospels.
    The Stranger
    The Stranger
    @Kes You're right. Those two words tend to be so cloely related, and so often used interchangeably, that I forget that they don't mean the same thing. lol.
    Kupotepo
    Kupotepo
    @The Stranger, the moderators here want to move the statues to the museum if it is triggering bad memories of slavery. I do not think many people here like violence.
    Kupotepo
    Kupotepo
    @The Stranger, lol it is not personal. It is just what I see. :smile: the destruction of the statues are condemned because it is destruction just like everything else. What is stop them from destroying your home. Unless local people voted to destruction of it of course. But, yes, that is my observation.
    "I'm tired of this. I need to watch something a little more grounded in reality" I said as I switched over from watching the news to cartoons in 2020.
    I finally gave in and checked out TLOU2 spoilers...and just dang. I thought DA:I, Andrameda and the death of Bioware was bad. Why are all of the industry greats when it comes to storytelling being picked off and destroyed from the inside? Who's really left now besides CD projeckt red maybe, arguably, when it comes to narrative focuses in gaming now that's still competent?
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    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    *narrative focus in genres other than actual Visual Novels I mean.
    The Stranger
    The Stranger
    Spiders. While their games aren't the best thing since sliced bread, they tend to have a lot of heart. I've really enjoyed most of their RPGs; even if they do tend to run out of steam towards the end.
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    Eh spiders is okay, they're good at developing lore and interesting background for their games but they are kind of terrible when it comes to pacing. They start off strong but by the midway point I'm always bored and uninterested in the plot and never end up finishing them.
    Yesterday someone tried to use my debit account to go on a spending spree at some mall in Ohio. Joke is on them though since I'm paranoid and never keep a penny more than 250 dollars in that account except right before I go buy something that costs more than that.
    Bastrophian
    Bastrophian
    I try to attach my card number to a s few places as possible. :[ .... I use it through paypal for a much as I can. I know its not fool proof, but I think at least in most cases, if my card gets hacked its because my paypals been compromised.... which I have triple secure. T_T ... sigh, now you got me paranoid. lol
    TheoAllen
    TheoAllen
    You don't keep more than 250$, I don't keep more than 20$.
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    @TheoAllen See I used to do that too, It was used pretty much only as gas money so I didn't have to actually go inside to pay. Then I got lazy and got too used to the convenience of having the money on hand to buy random internet stuff from time to time, and that's where I messed up.
    Today I learned that George Washington was not the first president of my country, and that there were technically over a dozen presidents before him. My own ignorance astounds me, I mean it always does but the sheer scope of this revelation astounds me. I guess George Santayana really was quite astute when he said:
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    Maybe I am positing that perhaps there might be some coordination there, but that's a discussion that slips into political realms inappropriate for this forum. In any case I've enjoyed our conversation this evening and thank you for the intelligent debate. It's been a pleasure.
    The Mighty Palm
    The Mighty Palm
    I'd attribute that to the fact that a curriculum is multiple subjects and errors and outdated information will inevitably slip through. I dont believe it is intentional deception, but rather negligence or innocent ignorance. Low budgets and difficult conditions may also factor. (The education system is famously underpaid)
    And while I wish it werent so, observation alone is not enough to make me call foul play.
    The Mighty Palm
    The Mighty Palm
    And I suppose I'll end with that statement then. Thank you and goodbye as well.
    My elderly neighbor whom I've been buying groceries for just got carried out of his home on a stretcher by guys with hazmat suits. Considering I've been his only point of contact for the past month it's probably safe to say my boss was right to tell me to stay home once I developed a mild cough after all.
    OmnislashXX
    OmnislashXX
    Stay safe, dude.
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    I'm good. Nothing but a mild cough, worried for my neighbors though.
    Ellie Jane
    Ellie Jane
    This has happened a few times in my street. Stay positive; some have come back. But stay safe.
    What do you do when you're your family's resident computer 'expert'...but you are anything but a computer expert?
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    Tai_MT
    Tai_MT
    I dunno. I'm the resident "computer expert" at my place of work. Where we have IT staff. Paid IT staff. And I don't know all that much about computers at all. I solve most of my problems by just "Troubleshooting" and reading Help Files.
    Philosophus Vagus
    Philosophus Vagus
    @Haydeos exactly what I did. Sitting on the phone with mom her trying to get me to help her pick a new laptop she tells me what she's looking at and I'm all "yeah, that looks nice" or "apparently a lot of people have had trouble with the graphics card in that one". I don't know why she thinks I know computers, I mean you build a tower one time and never hear the end of it.
    Tai_MT
    Tai_MT
    To be fair, building a computer when you don't know anything about computers is easy. I generally just look at the options available and just put in stuff I can afford, making it the most "high end" I can. And to be honest... usually the more money something like a graphics card costs... it usually performs better. Though, I usually just look at, "how many gigs of RAM can it use?" and get bigger numbers there.
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