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The Stranger
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@Poryg You're romanticising our ancestors way too much. Do you honestly believe that modern man is so different from those that walked this world thousands of years ago? Because I can tell you right now that it's not true. Those values you talked about? Yeah, they've always been ideals to strive for, but have never been reality.
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Poryg
Poryg
Not really.
Humans are not individualists. They need each other to survive. And if you need each other to survive, you will not betray each other unless you want to die. It's necessity. Not ideal.
In 2019 in cities though the situation is different. Women are strong and independent and help can cost you severely. Instead of necessity we now rely on morals and law.
The Stranger
The Stranger
@Poryg Mate... people have never been 100% loyal and faithful to one another. God only knows where you're getting this crazy idea from. People have been dicking each other over petty crap since time immemorial, it's not a modern creation.
The Stranger
The Stranger
So, you think no longer scraping by and doing things purely to survive is a bad thing?
Poryg
Poryg
We're never 100%. But I never said we were. In fact if you tell one lie in a sea of truths, that doesn't inherently make you a liar. What is important is what you do when it matters the most.
The Stranger
The Stranger
But people acted similar to modern folks throughout history. There was never a time where people behaved in an idealistic fashion. We were always stabbing each other in the back, cheating, blackmailing, being selfish, etc. Well, people might've been less prone to this in small tribes.
Poryg
Poryg
As for the second question, yes and no. For humans scraping by is always an additional incentive to invent. When in 1970s-1980s lack of food was about to hit the humanity, they invented a method to modify trees to produce 4x as much fruit for example. Wars are the greatest concentrators of inventions as well, not just for war.
The Stranger
The Stranger
@Poryg We sill have countless obstacles to overcome. Why do you think modern folks are no longer inventing new things? I mean, it's objectively untrue. As we speak, people are inventing new things, while many more people research new ideas to overcome disease, better utilise nature, and even overcome our limitations.
Poryg
Poryg
Not to mention the political impact of people having so little problems to solve is having. Widston Churchill once said that a 5 minute talk with an average voter is the best argument against democracy. Yet these average voters now get more involved in politics than ever before, bringing additional chaos to an already tense situation.
The Stranger
The Stranger
'Not to mention the political impact of people having so little problems to solve is having.' Erm.. what? People still have problems. You think that just because most folks in the west no longer have to worry about certain types of disease, frequent food shortages, or having their homes pillaged by invading armies that they have no burdens to carry? I honestly don't know what to say.
Poryg
Poryg
Where have I said that invention has stopped?
The only thing I have said is that people scraping by are more incentive for invention. And even more during war times, even though it may sound absurd at first.
The Stranger
The Stranger
And, in all honesty, I don't really care what Churchill had to say on the nature of democracy. Just because people sometimes vote to do things other groups of people dislike, doesn't mean democracy is bad. Far better than some of the alternatives.
The Stranger
The Stranger
@Poryg No, I know how war contributed to medical progress, so the idea of it being a motivator isn't absurd. Unfortunately, it also comes with countless downfalls.
Poryg
Poryg
If I elaborated on my point, that would be discussion about politics, so I'm not entirely sure I will elaborate. But believe me or not, I did not mean to talk about pillaging houses and diseases, although black death was certainly a huge issue in past. Nevertheless, I'm going to state several examples.
The Stranger
The Stranger
If it's gonna get political it'd be best to not continue posting. After all, politics are not allowed in the public forum.
Poryg
Poryg
My main concern btw. is not politics. But the unreasomable activism, activities people can justify behind activism and the politicians actually listening to these activists instead of punishing them when they go overboard. We now have 62 genders, worry about global warming as a problem instead of a thing that would happen inevitably...
The Stranger
The Stranger
But climate change is a problem. I agree with the whole gender thing, though. Our activists are somewhat more civil than activists throughout history. American activists ended up triggering a revolution and forming the USA. lol. Luckily, we aren't being ruled by ANTIFA at the moment. :p
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We have real problems. For example obsolete educational systems are an issue. Lack of nationalism is an issue, because if people aren't proud of their country, who will defend it in times of need? And the fact that we cannot even defend ourselves nowadays... That's some serious issues, but nobody tries to solve them.
standardplayer
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Soooo....@MushroomCake28, congrats on being so close to the finish line! I'm excited for you ^^
The Stranger
The Stranger
Nationalism has become something of a dirty word. People equate it with Nazism and other extreme things. Of course, it doesn't have to be so extreme. I do believe people should value their country and culture, but not to the extent that they think they are superior in all ways. Education is another issue I agree with you fully on. Really crappy public schools over here.

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