Congrats. At least you had an adventure.
Not the one I'd like though. We're not sufficiently equipped for that. I'm the only one who has combat tools, because I bought them myself. We use phones instead of walkie-talkie, which makes coordination difficult. And today my colleague could possibly die and I wouldn't be able to help him.
Oh. . . . What kind of place that doesn't provide you necessary protection tools?
Look, people still laugh at me for buying them and for carrying them around. They always ask me why did I buy them. To which I always reply, I hope for nothing.
The thing is, in our country self defence tools have limited use. I can't use them against fists or else it's excessive use of force. And against women I can't use even my hands for the same reason. So for the most part carrying tjem around is useless, so where it's generally safe, they're not supplied.
Wow. Even if in life and death situation, you can't use force?
What country are you in
In life and death situation you can. But it has to be life and death. Fortunately this wasn't a life and death situation... But might as well have been. Which is what scares me the most.
The problem with that kind of law is that it is often hard to know what is a life and death situation until you've already passed the threshold from life to death. When things go bad they go bad quickly. Glad you are safe, hope those tools stay nothing but a precautious hobby for the rest of your life.
Yeah. The laws expect contradicting things. One of then is that we keep our distance and don't engage in combat. The other one is to catch a thief when he starts to run. Even then we're not allowed to use violence until he uses it, but we're in point blank, so we're at a serious disadvantage.
@Philosophus Vagus within a civilized society you define the life or death situation as "reasonable perception" like we do in the States and then as long as the nation is homogeneous the law and definition becomes clear.
@Golden Unicorn Gaming good in theory, less so in practice. After you defend yourself, even in your own home the cops will treat you like a criminal, and the pretrial judge will scrutinize every facet of your case for justification to charge you. The very fact of your survival will be treated as grounds that you didnt have "cause to fear for your life".
So you better have your ducks in a row. Even when the guy shot 1. Wasnt actually killed and 2. Shot at me during a home invasion let me tell you the process you go through as a victim trying to prove self-defense is hostile and frightening here in the States, even states that uphold gun rights. One activist judge and suddenly you are at trial. Got off there but honestly more traumatizing than the initial incident.
@Philosophus Vagus We’ve got a lot in common. What state are you in/did this happen in, if I may ask?
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