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overlordmikey
overlordmikey
Also he fits the "manly" gay archetype.
But if someone (in a reasonable way) said they didn't think so I just shrug. There really isn't an argument - I share my feelings but in the end it's my headcanon.
The Stranger
The Stranger
@overlordmikey I didn't read too much into Sabin. I just assumed he appreciated flowers and what not; I'm a big flower person, myself. :) He was definitely the opposite of his brother, though.
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
On the flipside if the person started yelling that Sabin can't be gay because he's totes manly and manly man can't be gay (which I have seen) or some nonsense like that - welp... now things are just "silly" for lack of a nicer term.
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@The Stranger Sabin fits into a certain (semi-popular) Japanese Gay Man Stereotype. The young manly gay guy with a youthful innocent way to him - sorta an energetic puppy guy. Not stupid per-say but not much of a thinker.
The Stranger
The Stranger
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@The Stranger Note that this archetype is popular in GAY MALE circles, not ladies who like guy/guy circles.
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@The Stranger Believe it or not, the people who made the He-man cartoon of the 80s, were aware of the homoerotic nature of their show and that they had LGBTQ+ fans.
The Stranger
The Stranger
Muscular naked man wrestling a muscular naked skeleton-thing.
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@The Stranger I liked He-man - the show had a sorta tongue and cheek self awareness and outside of He-Man's awful hairdo - kid me was happy with so many hot guys. Of course I also like She-ra for most of the same reasons...
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
The show was a blessing to all gay youngster in an era where shows like Steven Universe were unimaginable. [cries manly gay tears]
The Stranger
The Stranger
Who's Steven Universe?
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
...You... you've never heard of the show Steven Universe? Ya know what - I gotta go, but before I go I am sending you my favorite songs/clips from the show.
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
Okay I sent two songs. Give the show a chance - it's pretty well written.
Warpmind
Warpmind
@overlordmikey Okay, I think you might be misinterpreting my point a bit...
The problem I am pointing out isn't putting in gay relationships into games. The problem is putting such relationships into games that do not have any focus on that.
If the game has thirty different relationships brought up, having an LGBT relationship won't stick out the way it would if there were zero other relationships mentioned.
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@Warpmind I don't know what yer talking about? I just said I want more LGBTQ+ characters, not necessarily romances/relationships. I don't even remember actually responding to you directly about that issue... did I?
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@Warpmind I mean unless yer under the impression that being gay is an action and not a state of being, in which case yer misinformed.
Warpmind
Warpmind
@overlordmikey I'm just saying that pointing out a character's orientation, if it has no relevance to the plot, is counterproductive. Gay, straight, whatever, if there's no plot reason for including that detail, I would advise to not point it out.
But that's not saying you shouldn't have a canonically gay character in the notes. Have them wear a green carnation or something subtle; instead of plainly stating it. :)
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@Warpmind I didn't say "force LGBTQ+ characters everywhere!" I was just saying that it wouldn't hurt to include more. Things like "two guys living together". They don't have to yell "I'm GAY" all the time, but their existence doesn't hurt.
overlordmikey
overlordmikey
@Warpmind I get what yer trying to say, but the local Mayor you have to talk with at one point who has a opposite-sex spouse could always have a same-sex without the plot changing in the slightest.
Warpmind
Warpmind
@overlordmikey Yes, I think you are getting my meaning - subtle inclusion rather than explicitly stating the fact. Two guys and a single bedroom in their house sort of thing is a perfect way to include it. :)
It's putting it in plain text that's risky.
Heck, the the male mayor could have a throwaway line about his husband's birthday coming up, and it could probably slide under the radar. Subtle. ;)

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