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TheoAllen

Shame, I like some of RTP music

I'm thinking of remix one of em though.

Poryg

I like some of it, but would never use it in its default state. Mayyyyyybe except for two pieces that aren't known that well

The Stranger

Not a fan of the majority of the default sound effects, either.

bgillisp

@Poryg : Take the RTP music and change the tempo to 125 or 75 (and sometimes 120 or 105 works too). It's hardly recognizable then. I use a few RTP tracks at those tempos for that reason.

Poryg

@bgillisp That sounds interesting. And very true, a tempo can create new songs!

bgillisp

Here's a level from a little puzzle game I made in RPGMaker to demonstrate, the music is one of the themes at tempo 50. I forget which theme though (its 1 or 4 though): https://youtu.be/mctnmJ9-7rc

Matseb2611

A lot also depends on your audience. If your games are likely to be played by more RM enthusiasts, then many of them will recognize RTP music and assets. But a game tailored for an average gamer, they might not recognize it at all. RTP music might be a little too risky, but say music from store packs is a perfectly good option to go for.

Matseb2611

From my experience, 99.9% of players have no preference whether your music tracks are custom-made or are royalty-free tracks you got from store packs or external websites, so long as the track is 1) nice on the ears, and 2) not too overused in other media.

Matseb2611

Another thing, similar to changing tempo in RTP music, doing small edits on RTP graphics can have the same effect, even if it's a simple recolour or frankenspriting. Changing some lighting effects and using the clumping method when mapping also has a very positive effect with simple RTP graphics.

TheoAllen

It just a huge IF a developer wont use RTP just because it's RTP, refuse to listen to the music, looking at the graphic, or even try to edit it, and eventually forgot the potential

TheoAllen

An example. Does anyone still using RTP VX music though. I wonder if I put one, no one gonna suspect it's RTP because it's "forgotten". Rather than develop using VX, why not Ace, or MV?

Poryg

Yeah, VX RTP music is unique, so it can be forgotten easily. VXAce music is the remaster of 2000 and XP though, so that has the greatest chance of being known. Nevertheless, 2003 has a pack of some little known music.
Although it's true that dlc aren't much different from rtp in principle. Overused dlc get recognized too.

bgillisp

However, remember you couldn't legally own 2000 outside of Japan until sometime in the last couple years. So even if it is a remaster, it would only be known to those who play a lot of RPGMaker games, or those who illegally owned 2000 before it was sold outside Japan.

bgillisp

However, on that note, you should probably avoid Battle 1 from ACE. That is the common one used in those make an RPG quickly for a $ or $$ games on Steam, as that is the default battle theme.

Matseb2611

I find the default menu sounds can also be very jarring. If you can only change some sound fx in your game, it should be the menu ones. The amount of default Cursor, Cancel, and Decision sounds I've heard now instantly raises a red alert whenever I hear it, and yet that stuff is so easy to change.

Matseb2611

Btw, @Poryg, which Ace RTP tracks are remixes of XP? I know both fairly well and I don't remember any Ace ones being XP remixes.

TheoAllen

Yep, I also changed default sfx to something softer. VX default has a way softer sfx than Ace

DarkKxng101

Could you explain to me how to start a Thread?

starlight dream

@DarkKxng101 At the top right of each forum there's a blue box-link that says "Post New Thread".

DarkKxng101

Thank you!

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