anthropomorphic tigers common name?

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Question is simple, does this creature has it's own common name, like werewolves?

 

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If ya looking for a term that people gonna recognise, I guess "were-tiger" is yo best bet!
 

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So the answer is no. alice's answer is probably the best you'll get, as sticking "were" in front of any animal gives that idea.

However, that might not be strictly what you're asking, as werewolves are not technically anthropomorphic wolves. They are a specific mythological creature that transforms between man and wolf at the full moon (and sometimes that transformation is portrayed as a bipedal, rather than typical, wolf, but it's not a part of the definition).

So if you're not going for the transforming-with-the-moon lycanthropy thing, I would avoid using "were" because you're going to be perceived as using it incorrectly.
 

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So, better would be calling them tigermen?
 

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Castlevania games referred to them on ocassions as Weretiger and Werepanthers so non super savvy people would associate the "were-" with anthro animals.
You could come up with your own term too, as Final fantasy series has the Ronso/Hrotgar.
 

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Castlevania games referred to them on ocassions as Weretiger and Werepanthers so non super savvy people would associate the "were-" with anthro animals.
I'm not sure I follow that logic... :wink:
1) Not everyone (including not all non-super-savvy people) has played Castlevania.
2) Do you think one needs to be super savvy to know the myth of werewolves? I think it's pretty common knowledge.
3) Given the theme of Castlevania, I would absolutely presume those creatures were adhering to mythological lycanthropy.
So, better would be calling them tigermen?
Sure? I'm not sure why you feel the need for the name of their race to include something about being tigers. Isn't it visually obvious in their sprites and portraits?

Unless you're intentionally going for a whimsical feel in your game, I would find a race calling themselves something like that kind of cheesy. I second BK's opinion of just making a name for them. And if you want that name to be, like, growly, maybe with multiple R's in it, it might even sound like something cats would say.
 

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werebeasts have no control over their transformations and is often caused by moon phase.
---thrope is when a creature can transform between humans form and animal form at will.

---kin, ---folk, ---men refers to animal species that have humanoid characteristics 24/7.
unlike humans which create arbitrary race names to divide a single species as much as possible,
these animal species tend to have distinguishing names as little as possible. (which is smart because it just leads to superiority complexes and raises hostility between different species of similar races)
typically the only distinguishing factor to the racial names is purely a difference is physiology directly connected to survival.
(merfolk require aquatic environments to survive, lizardmen can't handle the opposite extreme temperature, beastkin can generally survive in any land regions as long as they have food and water)

any subspecies difference in their names only occurs when they are openly hostile to another subspecies of the same race. so you need to ask yourself, are these tigermen at war with harefolk?

racism is dumb. we are all 1 species
menstrual cycles could make some be classified as werebeasts :p
 
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werebeasts have no control over their transformations and is often caused by moon phase.
---thrope is when a creature can transform between humans form and animal form at will.
Interesting - can you provide some background for that distinction? I did some looking up, and the only thing with any detail that seemed at all credible was this page, and all of the stories/quotes on it do not offer that the transformations in Greek myth were voluntary.

I found this page, but it clearly seems to be some kind of fan effort and doesn't offer any real citations for its detailed claimed differences between the two. It has two articles it claimed to draw from, one of which is deleted and had to do with the movie Underworld, and the other does not support any claims on the site - in fact, it says "The folkloric definition of lycanthropy...according to an ancient Greek myth, a king named Lykaeon had been cursed and was magically turned into a savage wolf who wreaked havoc upon others" - which is obviously not voluntary.

As far as the books of mythology of various countries I've read, all of the lycanthrope stories from Greece were very analogous to the werewolves in England and loup-garou of France.
 

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the distinction between the 2 is relatively recent early 1900s.
while the terms werewolf and lycanthrope have been around since the mid~late 1500s. both being referred to as Therianthropy.

Clinical lycanthropy refers to the delusion that one can shapeshift into wolf.
(and a delusional mind can be tricked very easily regardless of moon phase)
Hypertrichosis (werewolf syndrome) is an abnormal amount of hair growth over the body.
(an uncontrollable symptom that got many people jobs at the circus (hence early 1900s))

this led to the distinction in modern urban legends and pop culture of 1 being involuntary (spread through disease like a werewolf bite) and 1 being controllable (born with it but not diagnosed until adolescence which is where we get anthropic: of or relating to human beings or the period of their existence.)
 
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There is the word Rakshasa, it's an indian demon that originally appears in many forms, but in pop culture it's portrayed as a tiger men almost all the time, mainly because of DnD.
And since DnD is very popular I guess you could also go with this name.
 

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@coucassi when you read that back to yourself please tell me you did the jazz hands when reading "Rakshasa" lol
 

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the distinction between the 2 is relatively recent early 1900s.
I mean...still, according to whom? You are literally the first person I have ever heard say this, and I can find no substantiation when intentionally looking it up (aside from that one Web page that I reasonably discounted).

I can't even think of any pop culture usages with werewolves that can intentionally transform outside of the Underworld movies and some of the World of Darkness werewolves - neither is going to convince me the accepted definitions of the words have changed.

You're telling other people that these words mean something other than what all reference sources say they do, but not providing any sources of your own :stickytongue:
 

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the distinction between the 2 is relatively recent early 1900s.
From what I know it's the other way around? The destinction became less popular in early 1900. Until then lycanthropy was only used for people who had a mental disease that made them believing they'd be animals and not even exclusively wolves.
 

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would you rather i call them skinwalkers as per native american mythology where medicine men were said to be able to shapeshift regardless of there being a full moon or even it being nighttime.
most native american beliefs have been lost to time with their oral history and been replaced by european superstition and belief.
most people whom only know of ancient mythology through pop culture would have only heard the term skinwalker maybe once or twice even though the native american belief predates the european and roman werewolf and lycanthrope mythos.
and its not limited to just the navajo clan. almost every native clan has stories of shapeshifters
 

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would you rather i call them skinwalkers
I would rather you don't tell people who are asking questions that words mean something they don't mean? :stickytongue: Or, as I've asked twice, provide some actual factual source for your statements.

As it is, this is the third kind of rant-y post you've made that goes off into weird tangents, and your original statement that started it all vis-a-vis werewolves and lycanthropes appears to be simply made up by you.

Anyhow, I think all appropriate information is here for anyone coming across the thread, so I'm out of this weird spiral :wink:
 

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@Soulrender are your creatures even able to shapeshift or is their anthropomorphic tiger-form their natural appearence, which they can't change? If the latter is the case Skinwalker wouldn't work. Even were-tiger may be missleading. So, maybe you'd be better off just inventing a new name or use something related.
 

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you do understand what an oral history is right? are you expecting pictures of cave drawings or something? 600 year old documents of a culture 1st encountered 500 years ago?
the oldest 1st hand account documenting native american skinwalkers was only written 1944 by Kluckhohn, C.
anything older then that is 2nd hand accounts written by non natives.
should i go back in time and ask my great grandfather to write out the stories he used to tell me of chippewa beliefs and history.

or should i just post a quote from wikipedia
The legend of the skin-walkers is not well understood outside of Navajo culture, mostly due to reluctance to discuss the subject with outsiders.[3] Traditional Navajo people are reluctant to reveal skin-walker lore to non-Navajos, or to discuss it at all among those they do not trust. Adrienne Keene, Cherokee Nation activist and founder of the blog Native Appropriations, has written, "What happens when Rowling pulls this in, is we as Native people are now opened up to a barrage of questions about these beliefs and traditions...but these are not things that need or should be discussed by outsiders. At all. I'm sorry if that seems 'unfair', but that's how our cultures survive."
 
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In my universe those beast can be - i don't know - produced/made/ - call whatever you like, by two methods, as a result of love of human woman and animal (zoophilia) or witchcraft, by fusing together human and animal soul into one.
 

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as a result of love of human woman and animal
that's just a half-breed.
same as half-orc, half-elf, half-goblin, etc.

there is no single name for inter-species crossings.... except maybe "mule", but that's more of a cross between close cousins.
 

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