Antivirus and other paid programs

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  1. Eliaquim

    Eliaquim Raze: The Rakuen Zero's Guardian! Veteran

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    Hi people!
    I'm setting up a nice computer for work and recreation(if someday a can have a time left xD).
    I would like to know about the paid antivirus options (malware / spyware and all these things). Because I wish a great protection for my pc.
    Also, I would like to hear from you about maintenance programs, download drivers etc. such as https://www.iobit.com/en/advancedsystemcarepro.php?AFF=96594 and Ccleaner for example.

    I searched in google, but it's difficult to trust the sites because they seemed very biased.
    So I came to ask your opinion :)
    Thanks!
     
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  2. Poryg

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    Currently as it stands, Bitdefender is the top antivirus. Kaspersky with close second. However, they're very resource hungry. Bitdefender also has a 50% off now.
    If you need a great antivirus, but have a weak PC, I recommend Eset. It's not as strong as the aforementioned two, but it's still very strong. For slower computers the efficiency price is worth the performance.

    As for maintenance programs, ccleaner should be enough. If you don't have windows 10, it's also a good idea to defrag your disk from time to time. Windows 10 does it automatically.
     
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  3. Darth Equus

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    Sounds like his account was hijacked. Why the link to that specific product's site?
     
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  4. Engr. Adiktuzmiko

    Engr. Adiktuzmiko Chemical Engineer, Game Developer, Using BlinkBoy' Veteran

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    My lil bro's PC uses Kaspersky, while I just use Avira Free ever since, never really had problems with viruses and such (even though I do watch a lot of * and download lots of tors) . Kaspersky seem to be doing fine on his comp too.

    For PC maintenance, I agree with doing regular Defragmentation if your PC doesnt do it automatically. Windows 8 has auto scheduling for it but afaik it relies on your PC not being used much during the defrag sched else it will not do it.
     
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  5. Poryg

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    @Engr. Adiktuzmiko It's not like downloading tor increases the risk of being infected. It's about the things you download. For example pdfs are harmless. It's scripts and executables that are potentially dangerous.
     
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  6. Eliaquim

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    No,my account is not hijacked. I only have a doubt lol
     
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    Ah, all right. Sorry about that, it looked for a moment as if someone had done so.
     
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    Thats ok!! :D
     
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  9. Engr. Adiktuzmiko

    Engr. Adiktuzmiko Chemical Engineer, Game Developer, Using BlinkBoy' Veteran

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    I mostly download p*** and games (I used to anyway, not really doing it the past years)
     
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    I would not waste money for these things, at least not kaspersky, it isnt as good as some people claim.
    Are you all wandering in the dark net or why are you in need of good protection.
    Only had one tricky virus in my life and the main purpose of this thing was spamming ad.
     
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  11. Poryg

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    @Lornsteyn I actually wander in dark web from time to time. It's a fun place to explore, although it's true that I've seen things I'd love to unsee, but can't. But darkweb should never be a reason to get an antivirus, because the risk of getting a virus on darkweb is the same as the risk of getting a virus on clearweb. And funnily enough @Engr. Adiktuzmiko, even pirating games or downloading porn is safer than visiting a website made by an amateur as long as you go for sources that have a reputation to hold.

    My experience with viruses is like this:
    Four trojans and a worm on my old PC as well as few pieces of spyware. Quite harmless though, since they required internet connection to function properly and it was in time when I had none.
    Two JS miners that passed through Avast on my previous laptop. Could not blame it though, my PC wasn't the strongest and the site was infested with popup ads, some of them with a virus that infected the laptop.
    One trojan backdoor that I contracted on my newest windows tablet. I had forgotten I had no antivirus on it, since it was not supposed to be an internet browsing tablet (due to problems with wifi). I just needed to get an USB driver for my phone and there was no official driver available anymore. So I had to browse through shady 3rd party software, which often in the better case is non-functional, in the worse one contains a virus. I wasn't mad for the backdoor though, because I had already decided I'd format it and install linux on it.
    And I can't even count how many viruses I've encountered that have been blocked. Various trojans, several backdoors... Once I even blocked a really tasty virus, but already forgot its name.

    When I see a link to a site that looks shady to me, I visit it on tor and check it in dev tools for malicious code. However, I can't do that for sites I don't expect, i.e. ads. And these may contain malware, in fact I remember reading about bgillisp getting infected by ransomware through an ad on pastebin.

    Of course the free solutions are good enough, if you choose wisely. Kaspersky and Bitdefender, even Avast will protect you decently (although Avast isn't as good as it used to before it merged with AVG). Nevertheless, there are some things I just don't want to risk. Just like this:
    In our country there are 0.6 intentional murders per 100k people. We're sixth safest country in the world. But even so I have bought a bulletproof vest for 13.5k czk that also offers me protection against knives. People look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them, even ask me questions where would I need it. I always make some stupid excuse that I'm a security officer and I might make use of it in the future, because the ballistic protection has a 10 year warranty. But the fact is, people are getting increasingly violent due to bad upbringing, lack of physical punishment, increased consumption of drugs and lack of military service. So as people close various life insurances, injury insurances... I've made a life insurance of my own and purchased a bulletproof vest that will protect me against knife stabs as well. It cost me 13.5k czk with a 10 year warranty, essencially being 1.350 czk a year (which would be less than half of an actual life insurance├║. And while this kind of life insurance won't protect my family in case I die, it might protect me from actually dying. And if it protects me even once, then that's simply the best investment of my life, because nothing can match its value.

    With the antivirus it's the same. Free solutions work well enough and can be considered safe. However, I paid extra money to be extra safe. And believe it or not, it bears results. Bought Eset, because even though it's the most expensive and the weakest choice between Eset, Kaspersky and Bitdefender, it doesn't bloat the machine. And ever since then I don't have problems with popups, because Eset firewall blocks malicious ad popups from even appearing.

    As for Kaspersky, it is really good. It's weak in terms of scanning binary files. However, the behavior shield is really strong. Eset's behavior shield is weaker, because it's made to not bloat be resource hungry, but still is pretty great. I've seen countless tests to come to this conclusion, it's not just from one article or one test.
    So my opinion is the same. If hardware is not an issue, I can recommend Bitdefender. It's top notch. If you have a weaker computer, Eset is a good option.
     
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  12. Enbara

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    https://www.av-comparatives.org/latest-tests/
    https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/

    Antivirus software seems to vary over time a lot, but Bitdefender consistently gets top marks. I don't have recent hands-on experience with it but a few years ago it stayed out of the way and stayed quiet unless it spotted something, which was great to install for less savvy users.

    You don't need to use a paid antivirus product as the free versions offer the same level of protection. (If they have other features that you want to pay for, then sure)
     
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    What kind of software do you prefer? and how much do you know about it?
     
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    Avast does the trick for my main PC, having a free version of it and also a free version of Malwarebytes Antimalware for manual scan from time to time. I got Windows antivirus on too and my main machine works fine.
    But we are talking about a system with i7 7700K, with 16GB Ram here.

    For my laptop that's another story. Windows protections are disabled, I didn't installed Avast! and I use Malwarebytes Antimalware manual scanning. (i7 8550U 8GB )

    As for really tough virus removal, Malwarebytes Antimalware along with Dr Web Cureit executable, are really what I use, when I have to clean up systems.
     
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    VeePN probably is goood edition for you. The security of personal data and security while working on the Internet is a very important aspect in our time. In addition to a good anti-virus, it will be a terrific security complex.
     
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    I have heard that as long your device is updated (in case of Windows 10), Microsoft Defender should be able to handle all of it, in addition to being possibly the lightest antivirus and coming preinstalled with Windows 10. For macOS, there's not as much to it so just being conscious of what you're downloading should be fine.
     
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    I heard about it too. Do you use it for now?
     
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    That applies to Windows also. These days, it is extremely rare to get infected simply by loading a web page. The overwhelming majority of the time, someone downloaded and ran an executable of some sort. Just stay away from Internet Explorer and you should be fine (it was built on ActiveX and anyone who knows much about ActiveX knows it is quite infamous for security problems).
     
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    Avast destroyed my previous computer but now Malwarebytes anti malware protects my new computer
     
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    I also can recommend some usefull apps for your new pc. It's more for comfort, for example video downloader and smth like that. I used to watch video on youtube and I like to get it on my pc to edit, or remix with some music or to create something really new. Interesting for you?
     
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