Anyone notice the huge wave of M-rated rpg maker games?

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I have been seeing it a lot in the past month or 2 on steam. It seems like Rpgmaker it getting a huge upload on Mature Sexual Content games which I find a little wierd. I'm not saying they should stop but it is getting a little difficult to find games that people actually put effort into their games and I wanna support them.

What are your thoughts about this huge H-Wave on steam? You think it's a problem? You think it's just asset flipping? You think it's perfectly normal? I'm curious to what you guys think.
 

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A specific few publishers and developers have been pushing these out a lot recently, so the influx is probably from them. Those publishers specifically seem to be wanting to make a quick buck. To be completely fair, I've seen very well made Mature and H games made in RPG maker, with some being some of the most fun gameplay-wise I've seen in a game and completely worth supporting.

As for finding games that deserve more attention than they get, I think there's a spot on these boards that caters to commercial games. I've been sending people there for wanting to get new games.
 

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i think it is to be expected; as time passes, the boundaries of what may be considered as "acceptable mature content" is, and will always continue to be tested, in my opinion; influences like Game of Thrones, etc. are socially trend-setting works that forever redefine how far a creative work can go. as more and more of these projects continue to influence people around the world, there will be many effects felt throughout all kinds of industry, as content creators feel the need to live up to expectations set by their creative predecessors.
 

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I think it's normal to see that, why not. A new game recently on Steam, what is it, Melty Quest i think?
At the first look, it look like someone quickly put up a game with default RTP but if you try that game it's actually very cool :)
 

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Those games are always around since years ago on mature doujin game marketplace, but only in japanese language. Most of the arts are originals, so it's not those low efforts games that made to abuse steam trading cards.

Only recently that some publishers start translating those game to english (and poorly most of the time; machine translation) and getting it on Steam thanks to Steam Direct.

Based on number of concurrent players and data on steamspy, I think those game easily can be considered commercial success considering how hard it is for average indie game to pass 10k copies mark, even if the pricing is on the low side. All in all, mature rated games with gameplay always had sizeable audience, and those game hit right on the untapped market for steam users
 

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Meltys Quest actually looks like it might be good. Then again, it has an actual price tag and quite a bit of polish.
 

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@kirbwarrior polish women are the nicest women i have ever interacted with.
 

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@kirbwarrior polish women are the nicest women i have ever interacted with.
And you win the Best Pun of the Day award :kaojoy:

On a related note, I noticed that H-games seem to be far better made than ecchi games (Adult games versus Mature games with sexual content).
 

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@kirbwarrior polish women are the nicest women i have ever interacted with.
And you win the Best Pun of the Day award :kaojoy:
On a related note, I noticed that H-games seem to be far better made than ecchi games (Adult games versus Mature games with sexual content).
I'm gay and I played Melty's Quest - it was actually pretty good! I obviously went the "pure" route. :kaoswt:
 

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Since there are really bad non hentai rpgmaker games on steam (and bad games in general) it doesnt bother me that much.
 

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H games with Ace and MV are very active in Japan. I think I see at least 10 new ones being released each month; only few are really good enough though. Having said that, only few select ones make to English Steam. I think most come with simple machine translations though.

On a side note, there are a lot of English M-rated MV/Ace games with Daz assets.
 

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Well, what can you say? Sex sells, sometimes even if the game offers nothing more.
I don't really care, let the market decide if those games are worthy or not.
 

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What are your thoughts about this huge H-Wave on steam? You think it's a problem? You think it's just asset flipping? You think it's perfectly normal? I'm curious to what you guys think.
The virgins contingent is huge. There's nothing you can do about it. :guffaw:
 

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The virgins contingent is huge. There's nothing you can do about it. :guffaw:
This made me laugh raucously for a few seconds, but then I recalled a guy I know who has like a dozen kids across five marriages most of which ended partially because he's really into all kinds of mature and hentai crap to the point of putting off real life commitments sometimes.

Sex sells really well, even among people who have no actual reason to pay for it apparently. I don't care for it personally and wish it would go back to the dark corners of the web where it's out of my face but still there for those who want to seek it out, but it's invaded pretty much every aspect of our lives in this day and age as it is from the entertainment industry to food to hygiene to even bloody children's clothing with no indication of slowing down anytime soon so where sexualizing commerce is concerned video games are pretty far down on my list of things that actually bother me, though socio-economically I really wish we'd grow back up and relegate that kind of stuff back into movies and games hidden away for the adults that are into that kind of stuff to seek out from the comfort of their own bedrooms rather than have it on display literally everywhere so that kids grow up measuring themselves up with sexual standards unconsciously from the moment they are old enough to operate an ipad or a television.

Might as well ask for us to stop developing more efficient means to kill each other though while I'm wishing, as our technological advances always seem to come laced with some hidden poison to counteract the good we can do with them, whether they be infrastructural, medicinal or entertainment. It's a strange ebb and flow, one that we're always tugging back and forth. One generation goes overboard and steeps the entire culture in the most anamalistic vision it can conjure, and the next, having grown up in it take the hard left turn into prudishness and stifling such displays by rule of law in an effort to protect their own kids from the traumas they grew up with, those kids in turn rebel against those rules and push the envelope right back out there if not further than it was before.

You can ***** and moan, you can embrace it but at the end of the day you can't really change it. We're nothing if not creatures of habit and our memories are quite short, all but insuring we'll continue to make the same mistakes, grow up and fix them only to make them all over again once the context of why they are mistakes escapes us for a generation or so. That's just the way we are, with pretty much everything, not just this, we love our extremes and always struggle and usually fail to balance them properly, whatever they are.
 
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I've noticed it as well lol.

It's okay, I guess. It can add a lot to the story but not always. Though I'd rather a game with sex, than a sex game :p
 

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Personally, I think a lot of people are just trying way too hard at this point to appeal to societal standards rather than just making a game based on what they really want to make it about. Heck, you get a lot of people pressuring others to put minorities and all of that garbage in their stories, so who knows what else people are being pressured to put in. This is why I just prefer to stick to my fantasy games with hints of modern day themes mixed in, 'cause I really don't even want to risk making a slice of life game, lest my head be bitten off by annoying people with a strong sense of entitlement who think they can make my game for me. I just try and stay out of anything sexual, keep myself more or less gender neutral, and let myself like whatever the heck I like.
 

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The virgins contingent is huge.
This kind of thing actually sells far more to people in relationships than virgins or singles. There are far more people in bad relationships than single people.
Sex sells really well
go back to the dark corners
at the end of the day you can't really change it
This is the kind of defeatist stuff I can't stand. Apparently there are still people who think having taboos and sacred cows somehow helps society. If you want something to change, then change it. Don't call something impossible, that helps no one.
lest my head be bitten off by annoying people with a strong sense of entitlement who think they can make my game for me.
Unhelpful criticism has existed longer than respectful criticism. It just changes form. Decade ago criticism was too vague. Today it's popular to get offended. Tomorrow it might the color red is taboo.
Might as well ask for us to stop developing more efficient means to kill each other
Without that, how will we get rid of overpopulation?


To stay on topic, it's probably a good thing. Eventually it'll stop having shock value and we'll go back to treating each game individually.
 

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I have some people around me who are into playing hentai games or collecting cast-off adult anime/game figures. They are all married and have children.

In my society (Korean), bed time between couples is rather boring as well as infrequent and, for men who have strong fetish, tend to look for alternative media for satisfying theirs. That's where adult games come in or somethings similar.

I don't know whether that applies to West though.
 

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In fact, I do pity those games. I mean....even after all of the efforts they could give, those M rated/H RPGMaker games are still loosing to the H-VNs (in terms of sale numbers)...so....
 

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VN has been more successful due to a number of factors.

1. Flexibility of screen resolution for VN engines while, until MV, RPG Maker has been stuck to extremely low resolution. Even with MV, most use default resolution while most VN supports 1080p natively.

2. RPG Maker's RTP didn't help, either, which made a lot of games look too similar.

3. Writing quality tend to be a lot better in VN games. In general, Japanese H RPG maker games have only one man working for it while outsourcing the art.

All in all, the quality just isn't there.
 

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