Autoruns/Parallel Processes=headache city

[Silent Darkness]

So i'm having trouble with a parallel process, yet again. Go figure.

So, what happens is, the player talks to a particular NPC, and then the NPC heads off to another map through careful use of switches. However, on the next map you encounter that NPC, it's frozen in place, despite the event being scripted to starts moving to a door leading to a different map.

I've tried having it as both an autorun and a parallel process, fiddled with certain conditional branches, all that, still doesn't react in the least.

I'll link the project file. No doubt it's some stupid small mistake of mine..

Scintillation.zip

 

[seita]

Looking at the project right now. What map are we talking about here, and which NPC is the problem?

 

[Vexed]

OK! I've taken a look at the project file and it's fairly simple and easily done mistake - one I've been guilty of a bunch of times.

On the event for Lady Anna in the ChurchSubHallA Map, you have both pages there set to the same switch [switch: 006]. If more than one event page has the same switch as a condition, RPG Maker will always process the highest numbered event page, ignoring any lower numbered pages even if their conditions are met. In fact the highest numbered event page always takes priority if it's conditions are met as far as I'm aware.

Removing that second page would fix the problem you're having and allow you to run the first page as a parallel process event [or however you would like it to run - just remember if it's auto-run the player character will not be able to move until that event page has run it's course].

 

[Silent Darkness]

Looking at the project right now. What map are we talking about here, and which NPC is the problem?

Vexed found the problem.

OK! I've taken a look at the project file and it's fairly simple and easily done mistake - one I've been guilty of a bunch of times.

On the event for Lady Anna in the ChurchSubHallA Map, you have both pages there set to the same switch [switch: 006]. If more than one event page has the same switch as a condition, RPG Maker will always process the highest numbered event page, ignoring any lower numbered pages even if their conditions are met. In fact the highest numbered event page always takes priority if it's conditions are met as far as I'm aware.

Removing that second page would fix the problem you're having and allow you to run the first page as a parallel process event [or however you would like it to run - just remember if it's auto-run the player character will not be able to move until that event page has run it's course].

Okay, but at the same time, I kind of need the contents of the second page.

 

[Vexed]

Well, as it stands now even if the first event page ran as expected, the second page would be redundant. There would be no way to run it as the switch that activates it is turned off at the end of the first page. And even if the switches were altered, you still have it set up so that Anna disappears [enters her room] at the end of her move route.

Let me know exactly what you're trying to accomplish and I'll see if I can give an example of how to do it.

 

[seita]

I've gone ahead and fixed your problem and added my own best practices that I'll detail. First your problem:

I assume you wanted the player to be able to walk while she walked to the door, the same as the first room you meet her, so I've simply mimicked that by moving the autorun into a separate parallel process, giving anna that single page.

I also changed the door to her room so that you can't enter unless she enters first, which will stop any bugs in case you need the parallel process to complete.

Things I've changed:

1. Revamped first cutscene to make sure it works using only an autorun. Reduces the back and forth you might do otherwise.
2. Name all events that are important. This will keep your headaches at bay when youre using a single autorun to dictate everything and using multiple move routes.
3. Added a door animation for when Anna enters the room. This is nice to see so that she doesn't just disappear into thin air.

There are a lot of things I could improve on in your project but these are some of the quick ones I could get to while fixing your problem.

edit: I forgot to attach your modified project file. Here it is~

edit 2: Don't forget to make backups of your project folder whenever you've done enough work (I do it daily regardless of what I get done).

Scintillation.zip

 

[Silent Darkness]

Well, as it stands now even if the first event page ran as expected, the second page would be redundant. There would be no way to run it as the switch that activates it is turned off at the end of the first page. And even if the switches were altered, you still have it set up so that Anna disappears [enters her room] at the end of her move route.

Let me know exactly what you're trying to accomplish and I'll see if I can give an example of how to do it.

Well, if the player is allowed to walk around with Lady Anna, then the player might think to use the action button. Want to have a small piece of dialogue appear if the player does such a thing.

 

[Vexed]

seita's awesome edits have done more than I could probably explain here

If you want the player to be able to talk to Anna while she walks simply set the new event seita has created [Event ID:004] to parallel process. I've tested it out on seita's edited project file and it works.

 

[seita]

Oops, did I set it to autorun? ;x my bad.

 

[Silent Darkness]

I'm not seeing the changes in this file.

 

[seita]

Did you just double click on the Game.rvproj2 file? It won't open it, it'll just open the last project you had on. You need to open it from the menu File>Open Project or Ctrl+O

 

[Silent Darkness]

Did you just double click on the Game.rvproj2 file? It won't open it, it'll just open the last project you had on. You need to open it from the menu File>Open Project or Ctrl+O

I did use Ctrl+O.

 

[seita]

I re-downloaded my attachment and the changes are there. Vexed was able to see the changes as well, so chances are you're just opening the wrong project file. Make sure you're opening the correct one, I'm assuming in your download folder.

If you're positive it's the correct one, check to see if event 04 named "autorun" is in the CHURCHSBUHALLA map in the upper left corner, close to the red shield. If it's not there, you've opened up the wrong project.

 

[Silent Darkness]

Found the problem. Same name+Steam cloud sync=fail

The move routes should not have the wait command on them, I think. Yeah, the player needs to be able to move during the move route in CHURCHSUBHALLA also.

EDIT 2: Okay, I think I could probably find a solution to my problem if I could get a conditional branch script for the event being at a particular place on the map. So, basically, IF event "Anna" is at tile X, then/else.

EDIT 3: Found a script that can indeed do that for me. Unfortunately, now, yet again, I have run into the strangeness of not being able to walk onto an event that is listed as "Below Characters" and "Event Touch". DAMNIT.

EDIT 4: The script name is "Custom Event Triggers" btw.

 

[Silent Darkness]

Bump.

Anyone?

 

[seita]

I see what you're doing. You don't need a script, I already solved your problem, except I forgot to make event #4 a parallel process instead of an autorun. Re-download my edits and just change event 4 in the hallway into a parallel process. This will let the player walk while the event leads him, you don't need special scripting for what you're trying to do.

 

[GrandmaDeb]

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Silent Darkness, good luck with your project!

 

[Silent Darkness]

Thank you for the words, Grandma.

Well, i've already decided to change how the scene will work out, but I will DEFINITELY use this as a good learning experience. Thank you, everyone. You helped :3

Alright, i'm done here. Thread can be closed now.

 

[Shaz]

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