Break down of Shops and classifieds

[ShinGamix]

I think the resource requests, classifieds offers/ requests and Resource Workshops have grown enough to be broken down into sub categorized sub forums in those respective areas. 

As for resource workshops I find that title shops having their own "sub" sub forum would help noobs and others to find the help they are looking for much easier. Then the writing, art, portrait/faces, sprites, music, scripting and writing could also do the same.

I also think it is time since the forum has grown to a great level this would help out a lot of members and guests greatly.

 

[Wavelength]

I do think this is a really good idea.  There are certain categories of requests that I find myself consistently looking at, and others that I don't... and in general, offers and requests do fit neatly into a single category (scripts, scenes, tileset/mapping, sprite, other graphics, voice, music, or writing... and if that's too many categories, it could be combined into four: RGSS/graphics/sound/writing).  Maybe there could be a "projects" category as well for people attempting to recruit a team under the terms required for posting in Requests.

Edit: The categories I'm mentioning above are ideas for the Classified sections.  Sorry for the confusion!

 

[Sharm]

What exactly are the subforums you're suggesting, ShinGamix?

Maybe there could be a "projects" category as well for people attempting to recruit a team under the terms required for posting in Requests.

Nonononono, no. There is already a project section, there is already a recruitment section, the only people who try to recruit team members in the requests section are the people who either don't know about those or who don't have any intention of following the rules for recruitment posts, we don't want to encourage either of them. Those rules exist for a reason.

 

[Lunarea]

It wouldn't really help moderators to split things into more sections. In fact, it would create even more work. Aside from initially moving all the threads manually to the appropriate areas, we'd also have a lot of future threads to move when threads end up in the wrong place.

What would really make things easier for both members and moderators is if people made better use of the tagging system when making threads. It would make it easy to just click on a tag (ex. portrait) and find all the posts that need/offer portraits. But that part is up to the individual user, not the staff.

 

[Wavelength]

Nonononono, no. There is already a project section, there is already a recruitment section, the only people who try to recruit team members in the requests section are the people who either don't know about those or who don't have any intention of following the rules for recruitment posts, we don't want to encourage either of them. Those rules exist for a reason.

What?!  Forgive me for being extremely confused, but I just looked in the Project Recruitment guidelines section and this was in the rules:

• If your Project is PAID work, post in Classifieds - Requests board. Don't forget to read the rules.
• If you are offering Commissions, post in Classifieds - Offers board. Don't forget to read the rules.

The way I understand it, if you have a project you are hiring for at a fixed or hourly rate (as opposed to commissions or other conditional pay), you are supposed to post this under Requests (and Offers for the inverse, where you want to join at a fixed or hourly rate).

When I suggested a "Projects" category above, I was referring to someone who wants to hire an entire team for their project instead of just a graphics guy/gal or just a scripter.

 

[Sharm]

Hmm, I may be the one who was confused. When you said "posting in Requests" I thought you meant the "Resource Requests" not "Classifieds - Requests". I always refer to that section as the "classifieds", I don't think I've seen anyone shorten it to "requests" before. There is a common problem with people posting in "Resource Requests" as a way to try and not post in either classifieds or recruitment because they don't meet the requirements for posting in those places. It's fast becoming a pet peeve of mine. Sorry I overreacted.

 

[Wavelength]

Ah.  Yeah, I since I frequent the Classifieds more than the Resource section, I mentally shorten "Classified - Requests" to "Requests" - but looking through the thread, it's entirely reasonable you thought I meant Resource Requests.  So no problem, and sorry for that confusion.  I'll edit my first post for clarity.

I haven't spent too much time at the Resources subforum but it seems like there's probably room to break it down into several graphical categories (sprites, tilesets, backgrounds/titles/parallaxes, faces/busts, themed resource packages), and possibly a few other categories like music, sound effects, and full scenes.  Not sure whether some of these might not belong in Resources though - hopefully someone a little more experienced has some better ideas!

 

[Shaz]

That still belongs in Classifieds - Requests ... as long as it's made clear that payment is being made as the work is completed.


The reason there's not a Recruitment/Project forum for Classifieds/Commercial games is because there are very few here who would make appropriate use of it. It would be abused by people who don't read the rules or posting guidelines and are attempting to recruit FREE workers for their game with the promise of payment when it's released, which is strictly against Classifieds rules - this already happens when we DON'T have those forums - it would happen much more if we did have them. In other words, it would make more work for mods - me - because I would have to delete all those threads then PM the posters telling them why they've been deleted, as in this case I could not just move them to the Recruitment forum as they would not follow the posting guidelines there either.


There's also the issue of the many people who post requests for multiple things in the same topic. We already ask for one request (or type of request) per topic, and that request is often ignored. If we broke forums down even more than they are now, that would become much more of a problem - and again, more work for mods following up because some people are too lazy to post things where they should be posted.