breaking the params limit

[nio kasgami]

Hi guys I was tempted to create my own breaking params but I was not sure where to touch this part...

I think this from Game_BattlerBase no ? 

I was suspect this method :

def param_max(param_id) return 999999 if param_id == 0 # MHP return 9999 if param_id == 1 # MMP return 999 endto be the basic control setting for the params but I am not sure 

I suspect if I change the values here to hit a error if I change the setting here

so people can provide me some point of how I can create my own limit breaker ?

thanks for further answer!

 

[Trihan]

Nope, that is pretty much the basic place to do it. Be aware that those limits will still be present in the editor itself, so you'll have to find another way to set your params higher than their limits (there are several scripts that can do this, but if you want to do it yourself you'll need to do a bit more scripting)

 

[nio kasgami]

that's the point other breaking limits scripts don't offert the customization I want for scripts so I decide to make my own 

but I noticed in the game actor if change the method from the param max this will throw me a error but I guess I can find a way to tweak this little code for work with my code haha

(I hate notetag so I don't use them)

 

[Trihan]

Changing the values there works for me.

 

[nio kasgami]

nana i mean if you want to call a method or to use "param_id" in a other method 

the system will not recognize it

 

[Trihan]

What do you mean?

 

[nio kasgami]

def param_max(param_id) # if param_id == 0 # MHP param_actor #(actor_id) return super end#~ def param_actor #(actor_id) if param_id == 0 case @actor_id when 1 return 100 when 2 return 1 else return 9999 end endendalso I can't find a way to break the limit of the levels :/ it's always throw me a error

 

[Iavra]

Are you directly modifying the base scripts? There are multiple errors in this snippet, even more depending on the class which you are modifying (for example, @actor_id exists in Game_Actor, but not in Game_BattlerBase or Game_Enemy).

On first glance:

- param_id doesn't exist in param_actor.

- @actor_id may or may not exist, depending on the class.

- if it would work, you are discarding the result of param_actor.

- "super" may or may not exist, depending on the class, but if it exist, it needs a parameter.

 

[nio kasgami]

no no I don't directly modify game_battlerbase

but Game_Actor

I don't wanted to show directly due how messy I was for the moment but here

class Game_BattlerBase      def param_max(param_id)    return 999999 if param_id == 0  # MHP    return 9999   if param_id == 1  # MMP    return 999  end     def max_tp    return 130  end  endclass Game_Actor < Game_Battler    def max_level  return 100 # actor.max_level  end      def param_max(param_id)    if param_id == 0  # MHP      return 99999999    end          #param_actor  #(actor_id)    return super  end#~      def param_actor #(actor_id)   if param == 0    case @actor_id    when 1      return 100    when 2      return 1    else      return 9999    end  endend  endclass Game_Party < Game_Unit      def max_item_number(item)    return 999  end      def max_gold    return 99999999  endend

 

[Trihan]

What error are you getting?

 

[nio kasgami]

the first one is simply they not recognize by saying "undefined method" "param_id" when I use it in a other method of param_max

the second is for the level

http://i.imgur.com/RVrXtRQ.png

 

[Iavra]

param_id only exists in a local scope, so if you want it available in another method, you have to pass it as a parameter.

Your screenshot indicates that param_base isn't returning anything. Game_Actor defines it like this:

def param_base(param_id)    self.class.params[param_id, @level]endI can't find the definition for params, but i guess that it defines the base params for each level and since your level most likely is outside of the predefined range, you have to provide values for levels that are higher than intented.

/edit: The class i was looking for is RPG::Class. From the API:

The parameter development curve. A 2-dimensional array containing ordinary parameters according to level

The default implementation of RPG::Class:

class RPG::Class < RPG::BaseItem  def initialize    super    @exp_params = [30,20,30,30]    @params = Table.new(8,100)    (1..99).each do |i|      @params[0,i] = 400+i*50      @params[1,i] = 80+i*10      (2..5).each {|j| @params[j,i] = 15+i*5/4 }      (6..7).each {|j| @params[j,i] = 30+i*5/2 }    end    @learnings = []    @features.push(RPG::BaseItem::Feature.new(23, 0, 1))    @features.push(RPG::BaseItem::Feature.new(22, 0, 0.95))    @features.push(RPG::BaseItem::Feature.new(22, 1, 0.05))    @features.push(RPG::BaseItem::Feature.new(22, 2, 0.04))    @features.push(RPG::BaseItem::Feature.new(41, 1))    @features.push(RPG::BaseItem::Feature.new(51, 1))    @features.push(RPG::BaseItem::Feature.new(52, 1))  end  def exp_for_level(level)    lv = level.to_f    basis = @exp_params[0].to_f    extra = @exp_params[1].to_f    acc_a = @exp_params[2].to_f    acc_b = @exp_params[3].to_f    return (basis*((lv-1)**(0.9+acc_a/250))*lv*(lv+1)/      (6+lv**2/50/acc_+(lv-1)*extra).round.to_i  end  attr_accessor :exp_params  attr_accessor :params  attr_accessor :learningsend

 

[nio kasgami]

so in simple I have to modify the rpg::class ? 

for make it enable to break the level params?

 

[Iavra]

Yeah, you would need to have it return values for levels > 99. You can either directly expand the @params table or create a method for higher levels and modify param_base to call it.

 

[nio kasgami]

I am not really sure how to make this actually D:

 

[Iavra]

I haven't done anything like this, honestly, and i'm generally a fan of lower numbers, so i would never need to tamper with the limits, anyway. I would suggest taking a look at other limit break scripts and learn from them (YanFly has one, for example: https://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/adjust-limits/).

 

[nio kasgami]

of what I see he take the calculation via the level 98 for other levels..but I am not sure :/

 

[DoubleX]

of what I see he take the calculation via the level 98 for other levels..but I am not sure :/

It interpolates each parameter for levels over 99 using its differences between level 98 and level 99:

Spoiler

#-------------------------------------------------------------------------- # new method: above_lv99_params #-------------------------------------------------------------------------- def above_lv99_params(param_id, level) return @params[param_id, level] if level <= 99 n = @params[param_id, 99] multiplier = [level - 99, 1].max change = (@params[param_id, 99] - @params[param_id, 98]) + 1 n += change * multiplier return n end

So when a parameter at level 98 is x, and that at level 99 is y, then that at level z will be y + (y - x + 1) * (z - 99)

On a side note,  you might be interested in this script as well:

http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/21775-doublex-rmvxa-constants-edit/

 

[nio kasgami]

thanks man! 

do you allow me to use your method (for break the levels)  as a dummy coding the time I found my own ways for break the level limits?

 

[DoubleX]

thanks man! 

do you allow me to use your method (for break the levels)  as a dummy coding the time I found my own ways for break the level limits?

Yup, as long as you're not plagiarizing my entire script lol(of course you won't )