Can I make an action RPG?

[Helladen]

Scripts are limited compared to complete source control.

 

[Celianna]

Since the discussion seems to be about learning to script VS not learning it, instead of being a support question, I'm moving this to general discussion.

Moved to general discussion.

 

[RavenTDA]

IG Maker is so lonely.

If you don't have the other programs purchased why not look into this one. It purpose is to make action rgp games such as zelda or other types. It might be more practical to use a different maker, if that's the only type of game you want to create. It'd be nice to see more done with IG Maker for a change. TBH I don't think I've played a single game done in that program and that's a shame.

 

[sabao]

From the reviews I've read it seemed unwieldly, especially given the price tag. Don't take my word for it though as I might not have read up on it as much as I should. Personally I just know of more uh, convenient alternatives. They may not necessarily be easier, but it would be a lot cheaper. At least when all I'm after is something along the lines of Zelda. RM is built for something a little more sophisticated as far as the traditional RPGs go though and that's why I stick by it.

 

[Gladamir]

But Zelda IS an action RPG, what do you use?

 

[exoticrings]

i want an action rpg

 

[BigEd781]

Scripts are limited compared to complete source control.

I don't understand this statement. Source (revision) control is software which provides versioning and other document management features commonly used by software developers (especially when working on a team). You cannot compare source control to scripting, it makes no sense. Are you alluding to the fact that there are "hidden" parts of the application that are not easily accessible?

If yes, then you are correct. That however does not constitute a "dumbing down" of the task. Think of it in terms of the runtime required for almost any closed-source language out there. Think of it as external dependencies for which you cannot control the behavior. This is extremely common; almost any application out there links in some way to code that the programmer did not write. These are called Libraries. Almost any non-trivial program out there will utilize closed source libraries at one point or another (hint; your Windows OS is what actually executes any program you run on it, i.e., code you do not control).

 

[Tsukihime]

I don't understand this statement. Source (revision) control is software which provides versioning and other document management features commonly used by software developers (especially when working on a team). You cannot compare source control to scripting, it makes no sense. Are you alluding to the fact that there are "hidden" parts of the application that are not easily accessible?

Pretty sure he's referring to the fact that you don't have access to the whole ruby library (eg: complete "source" control), even some simple things like moving files around.

 

[BigEd781]

Pretty sure he's referring to the fact that you don't have access to the whole ruby library (eg: complete "source" control), even some simple things like moving files around.

Ruby is open source. I'm pretty sure he was referring to the RGSS library.

 

[Tsukihime]

RGSS Library = "dumbed down" ruby would be another way to interpret it.

 

[BigEd781]

RGSS Library = "dumbed down" ruby would be another way to interpret it.

Ruby is a programming language, RGSS is a library. They are completely different things. RGSS is *not* a language.

 

[Tsukihime]

Ruby is a programming language, RGSS is a library. They are completely different things. RGSS is *not* a language.

I thought we were talking about standard ruby libraries vs RGSS library?

Cause having less to work with would make it "dumbed down" in some sense.

 

[BigEd781]

Ok... here's the thing; programming in VX is conceptual and practically no different than programming anywhere else. What libraries you may or may not have available to you is irrelevant. Also, RGSS does not replace the ruby standard library, it is a ruby accessible API that contains the logic most central to the game engine.

 

[sabao]

But Zelda IS an action RPG, what do you use?

By less sophisticated, I meant Zelda uses a lot less of the math usually running in the background during battles because of character stats. Zelda was just a matter of hitting things and then moving out of the way to avoid being hit which is essentially how a platformer game behaves. There are several other software that are tailor made for publishing platformers, I'm not sure I'm allowed to say what here. An action battle system would perhaps be a lot more simpler to do there as that is what they're designed to publish, but then designing RPG elements like stores, inventories and NPCs may be trickier.

 

[Gladamir]

They should turn the name to Action RPG Maker so that they don't deceive people like me.

 

[sabao]

You can't really blame the name when the only actual limitation you seem to have for whatever it is you want is a lack of understanding and the patience to actually learn to use the tools you have.

 

[amerk]

They should turn the name to Action RPG Maker so that they don't deceive people like me.

Because reading the description is hard to do?

Quote from the main home page of this site:

With IG Maker you have everything you need to create Platformers, Action RPGs, 2D Shooters or any combination of the three you can imagine! Add HD resolutions, the ability to play your games on PCs, Flash, and the Xbox 360, and you have a tool with the power to create almost any 2D game you can dream up and the control to release your game the way you want to.

Read more: http://www.rpgmakerweb.com/product/ig-maker#ixzz23NpB64wB

 

[Gladamir]

I saw that and I mentioned it earlier but you all told me that no one uses it and there's obviously a reason for that.

 

[Milkdud]

I saw that and I mentioned it earlier but you all told me that no one uses it and there's obviously a reason for that.

Just because people don't use it doesn't mean they won't play something made with it.

But Zelda IS an action RPG

No it's not.

 

[Tsukihime]

I saw that and I mentioned it earlier but you all told me that no one uses it and there's obviously a reason for that.

People said not to use game maker?

Lots of people use game maker.