Crawling up the impassable walls

[Tsukasa Fan]

I have just discovered new tilesets and I eagerly went about trying several new packs out.


After my initial fun, I started organizing my tile sets into new tile set categories for use. I know the basic rules- X= impassible, O= passible, and *= able to go behind. after I organize my tilesets, I mark them accordingly. On one new category I used some interior pre-sets, namely the walls and floors. I copy the normal interior category exactly (which isn't hard as the A tab practically marks them for you) and proceed to build. When I placed down an event, I went into test play to see if my event is going to work the way I wanted it to. That's when I noticed that my character was able to climb up the walls. I wasn't pressing any buttons other than the directional buttons, so I wasn't using the testing cheat. I figured I made an error and checked my data manager. the walls were marked impassible. I test played again. I can still climb the walls, but all the other tiles I marked impassible (in different tabs) were working just fine and stopped my character from moving on them. After doing some side-by-side comparisons to the pre-set interior tileset, I found that everything was set identically, and there was no reason for this phenomenon to occur.


First, I would like to point out that I'm not a serious producer, I tend to make stupid little games for my friends and myself. If I ever publish in the future, they'll likely be free to play.


Second, I don't mess with scripts- because i don't understand them (and by that I mean custom scripts. I use the simple, select-able commands in the event windows) so this is not a script issue.


I've never dealt with this issue before... and I have been messing around with RPG Maker VX Ace for years!


on the attached photo, notice how the normal interior category pre-set isn't allowing me to walk on the walls (like it should) and how the Custom interior category let me walk straight up the wall (like it shouldn't)

 

[mlogan]

Two things come to mind: On sheet B, is the top left corner still set to * passability? It must be or it will mess up passability settings (though I thought it was usually to make things impassable that should be.)  If not that, are any of the tiles touching the wall set to O passability? Sometimes being able to walk on something next to a wall allows access to the wall.

 

[Tsukasa Fan]

Two things come to mind: On sheet B, is the top left corner still set to * passability? It must be or it will mess up passability settings (though I thought it was usually to make things impassable that should be.)  If not that, are any of the tiles touching the wall set to O passability? Sometimes being able to walk on something next to a wall allows access to the wall.

Who knew something so small as the * in the upper left of another tab could throw so much out of whack? I just tried it going "no... it can't be...?"


and it actually worked! Again, I'm not a programmer by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm aught to derp out quite a bit.


and even though I may have been playing around with RPGMVXA for years, I never really extended into using custom stuff until recently.


Thanks much =w=' I wouldn't have thought about that in a million years.

 

[mlogan]

This explains a bit of the "why".

 

[Shaz]

You have an older version of the editor.  The newest version, 1.2.0 does not allow you to make this mistake - it forces that tile to be what it's meant to be.  I suggest you grab the update.


The upper left tile in the B tab is the 'erase' tile.  That is the tile that is on your upper layer by default, unless you put another B-E tile there.  The * says "take the passage setting from the next tile down".  So if you change that from * to O, you will find that you can walk on every tile, and if you change it to X, you won't be able to walk on any tile (unless you have another B-E tile placed, and then that tile's passage setting will apply).


This is also in the help file, and probably a number of the beginner tutorials available.

 

[Andar]

@Shaz  the OP has Ace, not MV - there is no version of Ace that has that problem fixed, it was only fixed for the latest MV version.

 

[Shaz]

ugh!  I think I was looking at the RMMV in mlogan's signature and assumed that's where this thread was.