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Hi,
I'm running some event to simulate a crowd, my problem is, if I'm not aside of the Event, my crowd stops to growth.

Any idea why ?
Is it a limitation of the software ? Something I did wrong ? Any plugin to help ?

EDIT : I changed the verb "play" by "move" because the Events are still working fine, I count their creation with a variable, so I'm sure it's "playing".
 
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Could you please share a screenshot of your events coding? That would help to understand what you are trying to do.
 

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That is an ant-lag feature: autonomous movement stops if the player is far away, in order to reduce lag on larger maps.
Parallel processes should still work, so it depends on how the spawn script works and what the spawned events do - you should have included screenshots of their commands as well.
 

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Okay, this is the summoned event :


It's indeed a walking to the right.

So, we have a start of an answer, it's because of the Anti Lag system of the Autonomous Movement. Is there any thing we can to do deactivate it ?

EDIT : Notice that everything is already Parallel.
 
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Notice that everything is already Parallel.
worst mistake ever
NEVER set an event that has no content to parallel - that creates lag for no effect at all.

the trigger determines what is done with the content/commands, and if there are no commands the trigger should remain action button.

autonomous movement is called autonomous because it is completely independent of the content - usually you have it so the villager walk around, and the content a few show text on action button to determine what they say if the player contacts them. Or a guard walking on autonomous movement and a battle on event touch when it touches the player or something like that.

but that has nothing to do with your problem.

I would strongly suggest you try a different approach to whatever you want to do. The parallel process works, but the spawned events don't walk away if out of range, so the repeating clone command does nothing because there already is a cloned event on that position.

Theoretically you could add one of the advanced anti-lag plugins - those let you decide which events to stop and not stop for anti-lag. But excepting a massively cloned event from the anti-lag feature will of course create exactly what the anti-lag is supposed to prevent.
You might try it as there are some modern computers powerfull enough to handle a few hundred walking events, but it will cost you and older computers will have problems with that.

a much better way would be to find a different way for the same effect, for example like using crowd-sprites (one event for half a dozen NPCs) or a loop with a limited number of events, or even optimizing the control/clone event to only work if the player is nearby to see it work or whatever other ideas are possible in your situation.
 

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I already tried to put "all the appearances" in one Event, it was a failure, but since each is copied, this is not important.

Okay, so, I need a plugin to deactivate this, I will search, tell me if you have some names in mind ;) !

EDIT : I tried the Shaz Offscene Movement which doesnt work at all (plus, it ask to be written in the note zone, I cant write there since I have other mods which write there).
I found this topic : of someone asking exactly the same, without any answer...
I searched on the Yanfly wiki page if he made any thing about that, there are things about movement but I think it cant go throught my issue.
Still searching.
 
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Question : are "Autonomous Movement" exactly the same that "Set trajectory movement" ?
 

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@Nemesis666, please avoid double posting, as it is against the forum rules. You can use the "Edit" function on your posts to add additional information you've forgotten or respond to multiple people. You can review our forum rules here. Thank you.

 

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Hey, 24h between 2 posts, I think that's enough ><...
Dont answer, I want to focus on the subject.
 

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"Autonomous movement" refers to the movement route you can set on an event page which it will follow of its own volition without requiring event commands.
 

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Hey, 24h between 2 posts, I think that's enough ><...
no, if you checked the rules in the forums help section you would have learned that bumping in less than 72 hours is forbidden - this is a small community and most people here have their own projects to work on besides helping for free.

are "Autonomous Movement" exactly the same that "Set trajectory movement" ?
almost. Both create the same data sequence and effectively override each other, but there are differences on how they are handled.
1) the event command can be targeted at other events or the player to create a move route for them, the autonomous movement can only create a moveroute for its own event.

2) autonomous movement automatically loops and cannot wait for completion

3) the disadvantage of set move route is that it takes more processing power and creates more lag to set them through the regular event commands, which is why the autonomous movement was created in the first time.
 

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But both have the same limitation about distance ?
 

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Well, still no plugin found for that :( ...
 

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