How to create an attack with a % chance to instantly KO an enemy? And how to defend against it?

[ddblue]

Hey guys,

I was looking to create a skill that is basically a normal attack with a small % chance to instantly KO certain enemies.

I achieved this by creating a skill that includes the following:

Add States
Normal Attack : 100%
Knockout : 50%

This created an attack that had a 50% chance to instantly KO. Great!

The problem was when I tried to create an enemy immune to this effect.
Obviously if I set the enemy's "State Resist" to Knockout, the enemy does become immune, but also becomes unable to die... and that's not what I'm looking for.

How can I solve this problem?
Is there something I can tweak on those enemies I'd like to make immune to this?

Suggestions and advice welcome.

 

[Tiamat-86]

use state rate not state resist. that way enemy immune to instant KO skills. but not immune to 0 HP

also 50% seems kinda high doesnt it?

 

[ddblue]

Thanks for the quick reply.

So at the risk of sounding dumb, I'm not sure how to use state rate.
I read a similar response in an older thread, and I couldn't make it work.

So I set the Knockout from 50% to 100% and confirmed it works.
Then I added a State Rate : Knockout 100% to the enemy.
Unfortunately, this still results in the enemy being instantly killed.
Just to be sure, I lowered the skill's Knockout to 99% and tried again, with the enemy at State Rate : Knockout 100%, but it still gets insta-KO'd.

Have I applied your instructions incorrectly?

And yeah, 50% is way too high I think
The skill will be kind of high level, but I'm thinking 42% felt just about right.
It's only meant to work on low level monsters.

 

[Milennin]

Have the attack inflict a special state. Then, link the skill to a common event that checks if the enemy is inflicted with the state. If yes, roll a random variable (set it to whichever range you want it to have), and if rolled correctly, inflict knock-out.
For enemies it should not work on, simply make them immune to the special state inflicted by the attack.

 

[Tiamat-86]

state rate 0% means has 0% chance to be effected by the state(other then 0HP force apply)
state rate 30% means 70% resistant.
and anything over 100% means extra vulnerable.

 

[ddblue]

Have the attack inflict a special state. Then, link the skill to a common event that checks if the enemy is inflicted with the state. If yes, roll a random variable (set it to whichever range you want it to have), and if rolled correctly, inflict knock-out.
For enemies it should not work on, simply make them immune to the special state inflicted by the attack.

Thanks for the response!
I feel like this solution will take me a little while to chew on - and I'll take a closer look at it if simply tweaking the state resist numbers doesn't work out. Thank you again for the detailed explanation though !

 

[ddblue]

state rate 0% means has 0% chance to be effected by the state(other then 0HP force apply)
state rate 30% means 70% resistant.
and anything over 100% means extra vulnerable.

I set the enemy Knockout state rate to 0%
I set Add State Knockout to 100% on the skill

...but unfortunately this still results in the enemy getting instantly KO'd.

 

[ddblue]

Problem solved!

Solved it by:
setting knockout state rate to 0% on the enemy
setting Add State knockout to 100% on the skill
and changing "Hit Type" to physical (it was certain hit, which was why it wasn't working properly before)

So now that I've confirmed it works, I can set the Add State Knockout to 42% like I wanted to originally

Thank you all very much for your help!

 

[Tiamat-86]

generally a good idea to only use certain hit when the skill is a party to party thing like buffs/heals

 

[ddblue]

Thanks for the info!

 

[Kes]

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Thanks.

 

[ddblue]

Apologies, will do.

 

[Kes]

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