Let's talk about LOVE!

[whitesphere]

To me, love comes in several flavors.  There is the deep love I feel for my close friends who are like family to me.  There is the romantic (i.e. emotional and sexual) love with which I have little experience.  There is the love for a pet, or love for a hobby.

At its most basic level, love is about a deep connection.  Interestingly, if you look at it from a quantum physics perspective, the electrons and atoms are not discrete entities but rather probability curves.  Said curves NEVER precisely reach 0, although they eventually reach as close to 0 as you'd care to name.

This means, to me, we have a subtle and deep connection with the entire universe, which certainly qualifies as love, in the spiritual sense.   Of course, as imperfect humans, we often fail to mirror this back due to our own issues, but that's what we're here to learn.

All of this is just my opinion, naturally.

 

[Alexander Amnell]

Love is when you meet someone that throws your entire life perspective out of order. One day you're a nineteen year old kid with a social disorder and no desire to make any connections with others, let alone deep ones. Your only thought is living alone and doing the things you want. Then you wake up ten years later next to the most beautiful woman in the world with two kids and two more on the way and you realize that that kid you used to be would hate you but it doesn't matter because he was a self-pitying fool. You look back and count the sacrifices, time money and various freedoms that settling down and starting a family has cost you and all you can do is marvel at how trivial those sacrifices are compared to the life you've gained. That is love, not sex appeal or the hormones that wreak havoc in adolescent bodies.

 

[Probotector 200X]

I don't really have much experience with most forms of love. But I love my family and I love my pets. I'd probably love my friends, if I had some...Not looking for pity, just stating a fact.

Kinda want to say that...Harley Quinn X Joker...kinda creeps me out. It seems like a weird relationship. I must admit though that whenever I say "Pudding" I say it the way Harley does in Batman the Animated Series (I think that's the one), and that's what she calls the Joker sometimes, right? "Puddin'!" (I actually did this today even...)

Harley Quinn X Poison Ivy seems more genuine to me...even if that's still a dysfunctional couple too.

 

[Shelby]

I don't really have much experience with most forms of love. But I love my family and I love my pets. I'd probably love my friends, if I had some...Not looking for pity, just stating a fact.

Kinda want to say that...Harley Quinn X Joker...kinda creeps me out. It seems like a weird relationship. I must admit though that whenever I say "Pudding" I say it the way Harley does in Batman the Animated Series (I think that's the one), and that's what she calls the Joker sometimes, right? "Puddin'!" (I actually did this today even...)

Harley Quinn X Poison Ivy seems more genuine to me...even if that's still a dysfunctional couple too.

Harley Quinn chemically burnt here whole body to show the man she loved that she understand him and loves him! And yes she calls him pudding in the animated series.

 

[cane_danko]

Love is when you wake up and realize how lucky you are that you are not only not alone but that you have a companion to share the journey with. As to how deep or sexual that gets depends on the form of love. We use love for all kinds of things and that is ok. To actually be IN LOVE though is something that is hardwired into our brains and boots up when we meet the right person. Lust... is fun. It is short-sighted and does not last. Not to say that if you love someone you shouldn't spice things up a bit now and again!

 

[hian]

Love is a conceptual term devised to rationalize the biological function of the brain that facilitates family ties for the sake of protecting our genetic heritage, and our sexual drive for the sake of propagating it.

At the end of the day, human biology is probably one of the least romantic things that exist, and more often than not, in the modern world, our evolutionary baggage is a giant inconvenience - which is why we invented the concept of love as a means to rationalize our continued adherence to a very flawed social model (monogamous, long-term relationships) that exists primarily to facilitate child-rearing and stable environments for women and children during their most vulnerable time (child's young years, and women until the child is old enough to care for itself), not because it's necessarily conducive to the happiness of adult men and women.

The fact of the matter is that now that we have contraceptives, abortion, day-care centers, and live until we our about 80 years on average, with technological convenience that means we can probably spend our entire lives just having random sex without consequence, and devote our lives to art, philosophy and sports - so it seems highly counter-productive and potentially unhealthy to "love" beyond friendship, and family, because it will essentially just eat away at your time to do all this other awesome stuff for no apparent reason.

I get the, "if you don't romantically involve yourself with someone, you'll die old and alone"-argument, but really that's just the case because most people waste too much time in relationships, instead of polishing their social skills and making new friends.

Yeah, sure, if you live like a recluse with your "true love" all the time, when he/she dies, you'll be real lonely.

If you spent your entire life making strong and lasting friendships (and they didn't all pick the recluse option), you'll probably be better off.

Children? You can make those with friends, if just society could grow up and start being more progressive when it comes to human relationships.

Do we need love? Yeah sure. We need social connection and to feel we belong somewhere.

Do we need "Hollywood Monogamous Long-Term Relationship Love"?

No.

Or rather some do, simply because they've been made to believe they do and can't imagine life without it.

Objectively speaking though - No.

 

[Arin]

I'm jaded when it comes to love. Reason why?

Something always happens.

Something happens to that one person who you give your everything to.

And then they in turn betray your trust and emotion.

And then when the dust settles, there's nothing that can really be done. Except cry a little bit. But in the end, that doesn't mend a broken heart.

 

[Shelby]

I'm jaded when it comes to love. Reason why?

Something always happens.

Something happens to that one person who you give your everything to.

And then they in turn betray your trust and emotion.

And then when the dust settles, there's nothing that can really be done. Except cry a little bit. But in the end, that doesn't mend a broken heart.

That is a part of it, but like with everything else you have to take the good with the bad.

 

[Bloodmorphed]

I'm jaded when it comes to love. Reason why?

Something always happens.

Something happens to that one person who you give your everything to.

And then they in turn betray your trust and emotion.

And then when the dust settles, there's nothing that can really be done. Except cry a little bit. But in the end, that doesn't mend a broken heart.

What anime is your siggy from?

Also, to trust, you must be trust worthy. Not saying anything is only 1 persons fault. It's supposed to be a "team deal" not a 1v1 battle ya know? Talk, communicate, love, have fun. It's simple in theory, but it is pretty damn hard in reality.

 

[Arin]

What anime is your siggy from?

Also, to trust, you must be trust worthy. Not saying anything is only 1 persons fault. It's supposed to be a "team deal" not a 1v1 battle ya know? Talk, communicate, love, have fun. It's simple in theory, but it is pretty damn hard in reality.

Date a Live.

It's hard to trust people though when you yourself have trust issues now. I used to be caring and compassionate, but in the end, nothing I did really mattered, so I just gave up. Online dating is probably the most difficult thing I've ever had to experience; the lack of being able to do any of the romantic things, like holding hands, kissing, and just in general not having a physical connection is probably the thing that broke me down the most. And I'm really really awkward and clumsy in real life, plus couple that with my lack of enthusiasm, and I'm just not....material.

 

[Bloodmorphed]

Date a Live.

It's hard to trust people though when you yourself have trust issues now. I used to be caring and compassionate, but in the end, nothing I did really mattered, so I just gave up. Online dating is probably the most difficult thing I've ever had to experience; the lack of being able to do any of the romantic things, like holding hands, kissing, and just in general not having a physical connection is probably the thing that broke me down the most. And I'm really really awkward and clumsy in real life, plus couple that with my lack of enthusiasm, and I'm just not....material.

I'm the same way really. Bad experience after bad experience, then horrible experiences on top of that. My recent ex left me for my step brother, then left him for our best friend, then left him for his best friend. Was a really cycle. I have extreme trust issues the same as you.

Heh, I tend to go for the more clumsy and awkward women, I'm not too sure why though. But you and I are a lot a like, you pretty much wrote a paragraph about me, thats scary

 

[Prescott]

Love is a vicious monster that grabs your heart and doesn't let go, even when the one you love does.

Despite that being extremely poetic, it's very true.

I also think that there are two types of love. Romantic love, which is the kind we all know of, and universal love, which is the Reggae/Rastafarian way of thinking, that we should love all beings and life forms, you know, all the good happy stuff like that. The only difference, in my opinion, are the things you do in the romantic love, like kissing, holding hands, starting families, etcetera. You should love everyone as much as you love your spouse, kids, parents, and so on. We really should love everybody all the same: unconditionally. Because that's what we all deserve and things are always so much happier that way.

What can I say, I'm kind of a hippie.

As far as the kind of women I like, I don't really go for the "hot" or "gorgeous" ones. I acknowledge their presence, but I like cute girls. That includes a cute personality as well. Dorky, chipper, caring, empathetic. Girls that would make fantastic mothers are the ones that I'm most attracted to, not super models.

 

[Onomotopoeia]

A lot of things can be said about Love. In song, in drama, in wistful longing, even in jest. Love doesn't have to be "a vicious monster"; that is a mere matter of perspective.


If you're talking about real-life love and romance, then ... it is important to stick with it, even if experiencing difficulty; although if it ever gets to the point of knock-down, drag-out brawling -- something's gotta give. Thankfully, we can all hope this isn't the norm.


But the one thing about love that keeps popping into mind is a scene from the television show "Becker", about an ill-fated romance where blind black guy Jake ends up dating a blind white female; after a few scenes it is revealed to the girl that Jake is black -- and she breaks up on the spot. Jake's reaction? "The heart wants what it wants..." meaning for everyone involved. Both Jake and the girl were okay dating each other, blind or not; when it came right down to it, she couldn't accept dating a black man in the same way he COULD accept dating a white woman.


Everyone alive brings their own needs, wants, preconceptions, presumptions, et cetera, along with them as they go through life. That being said, I've actually been thinking of love and romance in cross-cultural contexts, if only because I have a desire to meet and fall in love with a woman from somwhere else on this world. Is it possible? Possibly. Is it likely? Idunno. Anyone ever seen the anime "Ai Yori Aoshi"?


"The heart ... wants what it wants...."

 

[ThatMaestroGuy]

As a robot, I've little input about love. I thought I could understand it and altered my programming to do so, but even after all of this time, and several experiences I hurled myself into, I doubt I will ever truly understand this twisted phenomenon.

 

[Shelby]

Love can be abused, misused, and tear away at your very soul, yet never forgotten. Love stays with us, elevating us to be better people, or twisting our minds into a shadow of it's former self. When you can show your love that you are dedicated to them no matter what then nothing else matters.

 

[Evan Finkel]

Since I am gay, I am not talking about love right here!

 

[Shelby]

Since I am gay, I am not talking about love right here!

Since when does being gay mean you can't talk about love?? Or does this forum not allow that???

 

[Prescott]

Since I am gay, I am not talking about love right here!

*cough*givemeattention*cough*

 

[Evan Finkel]

Since when does being gay mean you can't talk about love?? Or does this forum not allow that???

May be forums doesn't allows?

 

[Prescott]

Dude, it's the internet.

And I mean... you have a Brokeback Mountain avatar.