Mature discussion warning; Should animal who attacks person be put down?

If animal mauls human, should the animal be put down?

  • Yes, always

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Yes, but only in severe cases that lead to death

    Votes: 7 53.8%
  • No, there has to be alternative solution

    Votes: 5 38.5%

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Kupotepo

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@Benny Jackdaw, I feel bad that you feel sad for humanity.
Please do not lose hope for humanity. Do you watch new a lot ? The reason I ask because the news in recently have been negative lately. I think you forget your family and friends are humans. They are cared about you and help you.

Again I do not think the word hunt, people are talking about torture animal. Hunt or Kill has similar meaning : quick death or stuffing death which made a different.

Well, we are animals in scientific sense and philosophy sense. Remember WWI and WWII; however if you look into bright side, many people also varenteer to help others during a natural disasters.
 

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@Benny Jackdaw, I feel bad that you feel sad for humanity.
Please do not lose hope for humanity. Do you watch new a lot ? The reason I ask because the news in recently have been negative lately. I think you forget your family and friends are humans. They are cared about you and help you.

Again I do not think the word hunt, people are talking about torture animal. Hunt or Kill has similar meaning : quick death or stuffing death which made a different.

Well, we are animals in scientific sense and philosophy sense. Remember WWI and WWII; however if you look into bright side, many people also varenteer to help others during a natural disasters.
My concerns are with animals. Humans will be around for millenniums and are in no danger of dying out. I want to see beyond the hunting and killing of animals. I want to see that we are helping them outside of that, that conservation hasn't purely become hunting.
 

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The problem is that you are the one who brought hunting into the discussion. (I guess Bluewulf mentioned it in passing but he was far from endorsing it as a solution to anything when you attacked him) And when those of us with the experiences to know that you are just straight up wrong in a lot of your presumptions try to express that you do nothing but attack us too. What does being pro-corporations or anti-environmentalist have to do with hunting in the first place (or the current discussion for that matter)? Who here said that, who here shoved any of your insane presumptions down your throat in the first place? Go ahead and quote them, show me!

Is it the fact that I know hunters who are also environmentalists? Because I won't arbitrarily condemn it? My sympathies actually lie with you in a lot of ways, I've seen a lot of suffering animals and it breaks my heart. But rather than try and see past our disagreements and acknowledging where we agree (as you continually gloss over that whenever it's pointed out in favor of "why you just don't F***** care.") you continually demonize a collective in a paranoid fashion, constantly putting beliefs to us that we not only don't hold, but abhor ourselves (if real people actually hold them; I don't know anyone who thinks anything like that, though I know a lot who are apathetic and would say that's the real problem we as a society need to overcome).

What personal, real life experiences do you have that justify what you believe about us? Or are you just demonizing humanity because the internet is full of the worst that humanity is all the time because clickbait!? If you really hate humanity so much and hate the fruits of our civilization than walk away from it. Become a transient and drift from woods to woods, supping at the teat of mother nature herself and see how long you can go without the evils of humanity's labors corrupting you. It's a hard life but it's still possible, there is still nature vast enough to disappear in if you are careful, and if you know how to feed yourself while doing so. I lived that way for nearly 3 years, just me, my dog and a backpack against the world.

If you really have no respect for your own species then forsake it and show all us hicks you hate how it's really done. I'm dead serious, I think such an experience would be beneficial for you, at the very least it'd make you less of a hypocrite about it. I don't think you are a horrible person, but I do fear you are horribly deluded because you've been inundated by the absolute worst the world has to offer and cannot see the forest for the trees, so to speak. Walk away from all that, unplug and go out there and witness the realities of the natural world firsthand. I can keep listing example after example of why you are out of it all day long but you like to pretend you don't care, right? What do you have to lose walking away from the humanity you despise so for a time?
 

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The problem is that you are the one who brought hunting into the discussion. (I guess Bluewulf mentioned it in passing but he was far from endorsing it as a solution to anything when you attacked him) And when those of us with the experiences to know that you are just straight up wrong in a lot of your presumptions try to express that you do nothing but attack us too. What does being pro-corporations or anti-environmentalist have to do with hunting in the first place (or the current discussion for that matter)? Who here said that, who here shoved any of your insane presumptions down your throat in the first place? Go ahead and quote them, show me!

Is it the fact that I know hunters who are also environmentalists? Because I won't arbitrarily condemn it? My sympathies actually lie with you in a lot of ways, I've seen a lot of suffering animals and it breaks my heart. But rather than try and see past our disagreements and acknowledging where we agree (as you continually gloss over that whenever it's pointed out in favor of "why you just don't F***** care.") you continually demonize a collective in a paranoid fashion, constantly putting beliefs to us that we not only don't hold, but abhor ourselves (if real people actually hold them; I don't know anyone who thinks anything like that, though I know a lot who are apathetic and would say that's the real problem we as a society need to overcome).

What personal, real life experiences do you have that justify what you believe about us? Or are you just demonizing humanity because the internet is full of the worst that humanity is all the time because clickbait!? If you really hate humanity so much and hate the fruits of our civilization than walk away from it. Become a transient and drift from woods to woods, supping at the teat of mother nature herself and see how long you can go without the evils of humanity's labors corrupting you. It's a hard life but it's still possible, there is still nature vast enough to disappear in if you are careful, and if you know how to feed yourself while doing so. I lived that way for nearly 3 years, just me, my dog and a backpack against the world.

If you really have no respect for your own species then forsake it and show all us hicks you hate how it's really done. I'm dead serious, I think such an experience would be beneficial for you, at the very least it'd make you less of a hypocrite about it. I don't think you are a horrible person, but I do fear you are horribly deluded because you've been inundated by the absolute worst the world has to offer and cannot see the forest for the trees, so to speak. Walk away from all that, unplug and go out there and witness the realities of the natural world firsthand. I can keep listing example after example of why you are out of it all day long but you like to pretend you don't care, right? What do you have to lose walking away from the humanity you despise so for a time?
So instead of trying to show me that life isn't so bad, you continue to belittle me, to make me feel like s***, to do nothing to dispel what I am rapidly growing to think about you as a human being. I can see right now all you are going to do from here on out is treat me like a delusional idiot, so I basically have no way of speaking with you rationally.
 

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@Benny Jackdaw, now I understand would like to discuss about protect endangered specie. I think you could do right now to protect them is to work with a natural scientists or generic scientists to clone endager animals. You could work in the zoo to take care endangered species.Well, you can lobby politicians to pass a bill if you live in a democratic state.

It is good that you are passion about endangered animals. However, many of the people have different passion from you that so.

I do not think @Philosophus Vagus attack you. I think he inform you that if you bring more subjects into the discussion, people will ask you a question (why would you talk about the topic ?). How you fail to explain your reason; some people might think of you as a politician which change a subject to promote your talking point.

Let's not talk about environment because I have to define to the word and different techniques of how people play with word to make it sound good or bad.
 
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@Benny Jackdaw, now I understand would like to discuss about protect endangered specie. I think you could do right now to protect them is to work with a natural scientists or generic scientists to clone endager animals. You could work in the zoo to take care endangered species.Well, you can lobby politicians to pass a bill if you live in a democratic state.

It is good that you are passion about endangered animals. However, many of the people have different passion from you that so.

I do not think @Philosophus Vagus attack you. I think he inform you that if you bring more subjects into the discussion, people will ask you a question (why would you talk about the topic ?). How you fail to explain your reason; some people might think of you as a politician which change a subject to promote your talking point.

Let's not talk about environment because I have to define to the word and different techniques of how people play with word to make it sound good or bad.
Not sure I got all of that, but I do have something to say.

I'm sorry if I insulted anyone, its just that hunting is something I've been desperately trying to see beyond that constantly gets shoved it down my throat, and I get depressed every time it's brought up. I just want to put this to rest as well as myself.

... and by that I mean catch some Zs.
 

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@Benny Jackdaw, I provide a different way for you to make a difference in the world and helping animals if you want to.

I remind you that there are different between indoctrinate and feel offended. Remember that people have different feeling. You can yell and scream at them all you wanted, but some people will stick with their beliefs.

Remember if you like freedom of expression, others also like their freedom too. I will spell out now if you wanted people to think like you 100%, you will need to be a dictator and install an reeducation came.

Many people here are trying to help you. If you are depressed and you can't stop the negative thoughts, please for me go to a psychologist. You will feel better.

I do not feel offended and I want to help you feel better. I think many others are trying to help you and are not here to fight you.
 
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