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I have all the parts I need now. Gonna start building tonight, and hopefully it will be done by tomorrow.

I want to reuse the SSD my laptop has. I also bought a new one. Both are NVMe sticks. Does it matter which PCIe slots I put them in? Wouldn't want the data on my old SSD to be gone when I install Windows, in the worst case scenario something goes wrong.
 

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The first M2 slot will be the main one, with full speed and no limitation. The second M2 slot has some restrictions. If your 2nd and 3rd (They should be named PCI_E2 and PCI_E3 on the motherboard) PCIe slots are used, and you put your NVMe SSD to the second M2 slot, the 3rd PCIe will be disabled, and the NVMe SSD runs at half speed. However, I think you are not going to use the 2nd and 3rd PCIe slots. You only have one graphics card and nothing else to put on the other two PCIe, so you can put both NVMe SSDs to both M2 slots.
 

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This is as far as I got to. Manual wasn't clear about these two cables. I think I might have inserted the wrong cable...? Also, I can't take out that one I plugged it. It's harder than inserting it in. Should I just pull it out anyway? Will the transistors break?

 

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What cooler are you using? Does it have an RGB fan with motherboard sync? If so, there are two types of RGB cables with the different voltage you should remember: 5V and 12V

Here is the 5V one:

And here is the 12V one:

You may see on your motherboard these two types of connectors:

The cables must go into the right connectors, or else the LEDs will be done. I assume that your motherboard should have both types. Find the JRAINBOW (or the same name on the picture above) connectors with correct pins and install the correct cables. These connectors usually locate at the top and bottom of the motherboard.

And here is the CPU/System fan cable. It allows the motherboard to control the fan speed.
Based on the picture, you can find the CPU_FAN connector, or SYS_FAN1 (or 2 and 3) on your motherboard and plug them in the nearest (or the most comfortable one, prioritize CPU_FAN).

And the last is the CPU fan cable splitter. It allows you to merge two CPU fan cables into one, so it will only take one CPU_FAN connector. If you only have one fan, this cable is not needed.

If any of your cables go into the wrong connectors, take them out carefully.

I still cannot be sure how exactly your cables look. If possible, please give me some pictures with a closer look at your cables.
 
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@JamesRyan I'm using the Deepcool Gammaxx GT.

Manual:

The cable from the heatsink isn't connected to anything.

The one from the fan itself is connected to the 12V connector

The other end is connected to the CPU_Fan which might be wrong

But I am having a really hard time taking it out. Can I just yank it by holding the wire? Also, that bent transistor worries me.

They have a video, but it's not very clear. Neither are the others.
 

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Try following this video. It is better than guiding you just by words. Kinda hard to express everything to visualize it.

I assume there should be an RGB controller, which is mandatory for the RGB setup.
 
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Ah... I didn't use the controller and the Sata cable, since I have the 12vGRB connector. That works, too, I think? Some other people didn't use it, either.

Guess I'm done with that for now. Next is the case.
I have the Corsair 275R case and it comes with two stock case fans. I have 3 RGB Asiahorse fans, and I plan to use them. At first, I was gonna just put away the stock case fans. But now, I see that there are space on top of the case which I can put two more fans. Is it necessary to put two more fans on top? I'm also having a difficult time screwing them up there. One stays in place, while the other one can be moved left and right. It's hard to screw in the bolts, too, for some reason. Wondering if I'm doing something wrong. Is it better to put them up there or just put them away?



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Are case fans screws supposed to go all the way in? Try as I may, these bastards just won't go in! And the fans don't stay in one place, either. I can slide it up and down. Well, the fans won't fall back inside due to the screw heads, but I don't know if this is acceptable. I don't remember the stock fans being like that... Should I just keep screwing until they stick? My fingers are actually in pain from all those frictions. This can't be normal... It'll be fun, they said. T_T
 
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Some screws they give us inside the fans are way bigger than the slots on our cases. Mine once had this problem and I gotta force them in. It is your choice to put the fans on top of the case or put them away. But I think you better use them all. Make sure the fans above and behind are exhausting hot air from inside.
 

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OK. Finally put the board in. Hope I didn't scratch anything... Which screws do I use to secure the board in place? https://ibb.co/d7vVr89
The case is lying down on top of some cables... Hope they are okay...
 

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Use the middle screws for the board. The left ones are for the fans. I have never used the right ones in my case.
 

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They better not be for case fans, lol.

You know what cable this is for? It's included with the motherboard. I don't think the MSI manual clarify what this is.
https://i.ibb.co/yBRz0bp/20200706-021650.jpg

And what are these two metal pins?
https://i.ibb.co/D7D678C/20200706-021431.jpg
Those wires lead to the top where a bunch of USB ports, power button, and audio jack are. Will check the case manual again, but I don't think this was explained, either.
 

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That cable inside MSI motherboard may be used to convert some strange RGB cables with 3-pin (looks like the CPU FAN cable) to 5V one, allowing them to sync with other RGB devices connected to your motherboard. I once saw it before from an graphics card holder with RGB LEDs. You can ignore it if all your RGB devices are already set.

The 2-pin looks like a part of the case. I don't think I have an idea about this, too. Of course, it is not for Power/Reset buttons or any USB ports/Audio jacks. Some cases have a button from the top to control its pre-built RGB, or the system fans, but I cannot be sure about your case. If you can see which exact button from the top is connected to it, you may find the answer. Or else I think you should leave it alone.
 

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I think I'm pretty much nearly done. All that's left is screwing the PSU in place and putting the case covers back in. Hope the wires won't get in the way.

Do I need anything else?

I'm also thinking of putting a piece of tape underneath to keep the cables in place and not sticking out. Is that okay? Any issue?

Here's the back. I tried my best to organize those cables.
Any issue with those wires touching the back of the board?

Also, my case doesn't have a top cover, for some reason. Can I just put piece of paper there to prevent dust? I don't have top case fans, anyway.

Can I just plug the power cable in and see if it works or not? Or do I have to connect it to a monitor first? Those case fans aren't firm, so I'm kinda worried. Hope nothing else goes wrong.

Edit: Tried to plug in the power cable just now.
Bad news: it didn't work. No power light, no fans, nothing. Not a single noise.
Even tried pressing the power button on the case. Nothing. Uh oh.

Update: Never mind. It works now.
https://ibb.co/Jq22K1M
Not sure what the reason is, but I flip the power switch back and forth while pressing down the power button, and now it's on.

I have some concerns, though.
- Why is the Cpu cooler's light not on? Is it supposed to be on by default or until I use a software?
- I thought that Msi logo on the top left was supposed to light up?
- Ram sticks are also not on either. What's wrong?
- GPU's fans are not running.
 
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Do not tape the cables with the graphics card. Just leave it as it is now. And do not use paper to cover the top. It is where the hot air comes out. I think your case should have a dust filter by default. Check the box again to see if there is one. If it is lost, buy another dust filter to replace (it is cheap).

And do not worry about the cables from the back. They are not electrical conductivity, unless they are damaged and the wires inside are exposed.

Are the LEDs working now? The LEDs from the cooler and RAMs should be on by default right at the moment you start your PC. Try to download Mystic Light software to control the LEDs and see if it works.

New graphics cards have a new technology called "0 Db". The fans will not spin until the GPU reaches 60°. You can force the fans to spin at any time by using the MSI Afterburner software and manually set the fans to spin.

And one more thing about the graphics card: You should find something to hold it up. It is heavy and its board will be bent. Look for some graphics card bracket (like THIS), or if you can find anything (not electrical conductivity) to fit and hold the graphics card in place.
 
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I'm sure the case didn't come with a top dust filter... It's summer, so the window will be open more often, and I'd like to stop them from getting inside as much as possible.

All the lights are on now. Though, I have to use the remote to change the case fans' color. MSI ML didn't work for some strange reason. Gotta double check.

I'll consider that bracket. Or maybe I'll find something to stuck underneath it.

Ran into another obstacle: I have an SSD from my old laptop that I'd like to use on my new PC. But it's not showing up when I put it in. I tried to go into disc management, too, but nothing showed, either. My new SSD works, but the old one doesn't show up even in Device Manager. Seems like compatibility issue...


I think I'll have to use the M2_1 slot for this? These SATA M2 vs NVMe M2 can get so confusing...
I can swap their slots, but I'm afraid it's gonna make the new SSD slower.
That's the new one I have. Someone told me it won't be able to take advantage of the M2_1 slot's extra speed. Is that true? Would it make any difference if I swap them?

Also, I used over 10GBs updating Windows and drivers. Was wondering how the hell I used up storage so fast. That's typical size for updates?
 

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Always put the NVMe to the first slot. M2 SATA is limited to 500 or 600MB/s, so you can put it into the second slot. To check your SSD, try to take out the NVMe one, and put the SATA one into the second slot to see if you can find it from BIOS, or can boot it up.

Windows updates are always a pain. It will fill up your free space quickly. Some early updates even cause trouble, so If you can, turn off the update feature and only turn it on when the next version is stable (check reviews from the community). I have stopped updating my windows after version 1903, and I do not think I will do the updates in the future (unless some software or games require a newer version of windows), but it is my personal idea, and I will not recommend it.
 

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Always put the NVMe to the first slot. M2 SATA is limited to 500 or 600MB/s, so you can put it into the second slot. To check your SSD, try to take out the NVMe one, and put the SATA one into the second slot to see if you can find it from BIOS, or can boot it up.
Will check the boot option tonight, but I'm not very hopeful... The second picture is the second slot. That's the slot I tried to put the old M2 Sata in. If that won't work, I have no choice but to use the first slot. How bad or slow can it get if I have to swap them, anyway?

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I told you yesterday it didn't matter. And you've got a PCIe 3.0 SSD anyway, not PCIe 4.0. Only a Gen4 SSD can benefit from the faster lanes in M2_1. And even if you had a Gen4 SSD, you'd never feel the difference unless you transfer sequential data to another Gen4 SSD.
No, you can't enable the SATA SSD in the BIOS in the M2_2 slot because it only supports NVMe SSDs. It's physically impossible. If it bothers you so much, get a different motherboard.
Now what...?
 
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If that so, try to swap the SSDs. Put the SATA into the first and the NVMe into the second to see. It is not slow down the speed much, you may not even notice the difference unless you want to benchmark the SSDs. But in most cases, always put the NVMe to the first slot, as it has the most bandwidth.
 
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OK, guys! After days of struggling, sweating, stressing out, dying, and tearing my hair out, I can say that my PC build is finally completed and 99% functional!







Ahaha... I couldn't think of a better way to decorate the case, so it'll be like that for now.

I was inspired by this build:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGVlkdVUMAAQx2e?format=jpg&name=large
Too bad, I can't afford those fancy white motherboards and GPUs. XP Eh, doesn't matter.
I wanna put some Mega Man wallpapers in the back and by the bottom front, but that'll have to wait.

The one at the front will be a text box with Lan's face saying "Plug in, Rockman, transmission" in Japanese.

Why 99%? Because I have yet to activate my Windows. I wanted to reuse the key from my old laptop but it didn't work. I hope I can activate it over the phone somehow. If that's tied to my laptop's motherboard then I'll have to find another way. Either keygen or cheap Ebay key. Not sure if I can still get updates, though, lol.


Of course, I couldn't have done this without the help of you guys and the other experts on reddit, Linus forum, etc. Really appreciated the help! You guys are amazing!
 
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Congratz! I also like the white components, especially in these hot days to cool my eyes, but it is hard to find in my country. In case there is something you need to ask, just feel free to do so!
 

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