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We're talking about the same setting, right? The absolutely generic medieval-fantasy England linked up to the completely perfunctory evil Mordor lava land?
 

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I said the same thing to my brother after watching him play Skyrim.  I find Oblivion to be a much more interesting experience; there doesn't seem to be anything in Skyrim that draws me in and makes me want to play it.  I just found the Oblivion Crisis and Cyrodil much more interesting to experience.
Oblivion was even more boring than Skyrim to me, so every time I give it a try, I'll go replay Morrowind instead. Y'know, the game with towns made of mushrooms or crustacean shells...
 

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I don't care about graphics, even if I'm teenager. In my country teenagers play FPP-schooters and F2P games (so I'm not surprised that they want "realistic" graphics)
 

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i like to play call of duty


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i like to play call of duty

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welll.... first off, which one of the call of duty series do you mean exactly?

we have CoD 1-3 for the PC,

CoD 4 Modern Warfare  + CoD: Modern Warfare 2 + 3 for PC and sony/microsoft/nintendo consoles

CoD: World at War wich i didnt play,

CoD: Black Ops 1 + 2 for PC and Sony/microsoft/nintendo consoles

well i would guess you mean either CoD 4, or the newest atm wich would be CoD: Black Ops 2.... but wait, there are more!

CoD: Finest Hour,

CoD2: Big Red One,

CoD: Roads to Victory

CoD: World at War: Final Fronts,

CoD: Modern Warfare: Mobilized

CoD: Black ops DS

CoD: World at War: Zombies 1 + 2

CoD: The War Collection

CoD: Black Ops Declassified

all of wich came out for various console's and handhelds....

if you want me to discuss, give me a proper defined topic to do so ;P
 
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Oblivion was even more boring than Skyrim to me, so every time I give it a try, I'll go replay Morrowind instead. Y'know, the game with towns made of mushrooms or crustacean shells...
I can understand that. Morrowind was AMAZING looking. But I've never actually had a chance to play it. I've played it a couple times but never really got into it. I should really consider actually going and getting the game for myself. lol

Though my complaints with Skyrim were really more to do with other things, like, I was very heavily disappointed in the mage's guild plot-line. Just as one thing. Another thing is that I couldn't stand the magic system. But to each their own, in that regard. If nothing else, I can say they made some seriously badass looking dragons. lol

Also, @AzTech. Call of Duty Black Ops II.

Holy crap those zombies. Playing that with my brother, sister, and cousin is amazing. XD
 
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We're talking about the same setting, right? The absolutely generic medieval-fantasy England linked up to the completely perfunctory evil Mordor lava land?
Give Oblivion a little more credit than that. It drew inspiration from a lot of sources beside "medieval-fantasy England."

Oblivion wasn't my favorite game to explore, but neither was Morrowind. Oblivion's setting was generic when compared to Morrowind, but for every village of insect carapaces and giant mushrooms you stumbled across in Morrowind, there were leagues of empty wasteland. And empty wasteland isn't much fun to explore, no matter how many giant, flying jellyfish or cliff racers you put into it.
 

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I can't wait to see what the PS4, Wii U, XBOX 720 generation does. Although I'm strictly a PC gamer (elitist or whatever). Will XBOX 720 and PS4 bring anything new? Something new would be better. From what I hear people rather just stick to last gen consoles. I don't really blame them to be honest. Honestly they just "upgrade" the RAM, CPU, and GPU and call them PS4 / XBOX 720. I do that with my PC already. Guess I'll call my laptop "XPS Dell 2," I just got more ram  -_-.

Exclusives are they only thing going for most consoles, and great for people who know nothing about the PC universe. As a PC video game modder & editor I just fell out with consoles. I can't edit / modify the games to get infinite replay value. IE: I make some games harder or add more enemies on a level. Don't like something? Change it. Not an legal option with consoles. So I'm waiting on PS4 and XBOX 720 to show me their moves. Currently happy with my Wii-U, an entirely different experience from the others and my PC. How will the PS4 differ from the XBOX 720 besides exclusives?

But really, If you have good money (around $400) and love gaming, just get a gaming PC. You'll have access to an entire universe load of (cheaper) games, Free games, mods, and bigger multi-player. 

(Here's a fun fact: I modified an entire 3D RTS game from a note pad (ini data). Changed animations, sounds, weapons, and even game physics. The game was Command and Conquer: generals. A 2003 game I still play today.)
 

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@Hybrida Stick to PC and Wii-U PS4 and Xbax 720p have a special thing thats gonna piss off everyone. In order to fight against piracy they are making a special serial key that comes with a game, lets say Street Fighter 5. You get the key that's in the instruction book and you put it in the console, now that game can be used only on your purchased console and no were else. So if you wanna bring over Black Ops 3 HD dubstep edition to your friends house, you're gonna have to lug the entire console. This is a terrible idea and I hope it backfires on them. And now its a great excuse for developers to be lazy with their games and the early consumers are **** outta luck when they find out the game is total garbage.

(for me to get infinite replay value with a game I pop in cheat codes and or try to glitch the game if it is a console)
 

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@Hybrida Stick to PC and Wii-U PS4 and Xbax 720p have a special thing thats gonna piss off everyone. In order to fight against piracy they are making a special serial key that comes with a game, lets say Street Fighter 5. You get the key that's in the instruction book and you put it in the console, now that game can be used only on your purchased console and no were else. So if you wanna bring over Black Ops 3 HD dubstep edition to your friends house, you're gonna have to lug the entire console. This is a terrible idea and I hope it backfires on them. And now its a great excuse for developers to be lazy with their games and the early consumers are **** outta luck when they find out the game is total garbage.


(for me to get infinite replay value with a game I pop in cheat codes and or try to glitch the game if it is a console)
Hello wild rumors with no confirmation.
 

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I think the next gen consoles is gonna be the last home consoles. A part of me feels like it is mistake for sony to make a ps4. Game developing companies is gonna start focusing on making games for systems that people already own like their phone and TV. 

When the average house hold owns a smart TV. Your gonna be downloading FF16 on it. No PS5, no more Hard copies. This is what I think is gonna happen and should happen.
 

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Really? I'd hate for that, myself. Consoles are becoming ever more expensive, but I wouldn't trade them or game stores for an entirely electronic market.
 

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The thought that console and PC gaming is dying is very misinformed. I'd say if we are gonna see any substantial change in what hardware we use to play games, we'll be waiting a while. With next gen consoles such as the PS4 and the next Xbox around the corner, I'd wager the console market is going to take off more than it ever has done.
 

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@touch That's all I heard. It will suck if they did do that since the last console game I'll be purchasing is Metal Gear Revengeance and Dead Space 3 (The game is so good to look at!) for ps3. Well..just gotta wait till next week and for E3
 

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@Zozma: Yeah, but what is it about full electronic that you do not like? Is it because you cannot sell/trade your game? or maybe you cannot bring the game over to a friends place? What if there was some kind of trade in system like you get 50% credit back of your original purchase price if you where to sell/trade it? The the percentage will decrease base the the age of the game. Or what if you could go to your friends place, then go on to his smart TV and just log in into your account and play your games. 

@Lord: what do you mean misinformed? No one informed anyone, it is a prediction. What are your reasons why the consoles will be better then ever before? 

There is a very few percentage of people that owns all three systems. Have you ever really want to buy a game but you do not have the system? Of course! I have, for example FF crisis core. If that game was on PSN (for the ps3) I would buy it immediately. But its only on PSP...Square already lost at least one sell right there. 

Would you buy a $800 ps4 to play FF15 (which is gonna prolly cost around $80)? Or just pay  $50 for a controller (assuming for some dumb reason why the ps3 controller is not compatible) and the game?

I would really like to see your point of view why it is a better business decision to stay with consoles and why do you think consoles is actually gonna "take off". Because I think it "took off" when the SNES came out.
 

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@Lord: what do you mean misinformed? No one informed anyone, it is a prediction. What are your reasons why the consoles will be better then ever before? 
Perhaps misinformed was the wrong word to use. I meant to say it's a very common way of thinking amongst a lot of people these days, and not a very well educated one. I could say more but I'm sure you can find other sources on the web which would explain it a lot better than I, such as Michael Pachter's videos.

There is a very few percentage of people that owns all three systems. Have you ever really want to buy a game but you do not have the system? Of course! I have, for example FF crisis core. If that game was on PSN (for the ps3) I would buy it immediately. But its only on PSP...Square already lost at least one sell right there. 

Would you buy a $800 ps4 to play FF15 (which is gonna prolly cost around $80)? Or just pay  $50 for a controller (assuming for some dumb reason why the ps3 controller is not compatible) and the game?
I'm not really sure how this is relevant to what I was saying. A PSP exclusive is on the PSP in order to sell the PSP, not damage the PS3's sales. And I'm not really sure what you mean by that last question either - no, I wouldn't pay $800 for a game I could play on the older console, but in what case does this actually happen, and moreso do you think it's going to happen with the PS4 and Nextbox? Because it's pretty safe to say it isn't. We won't see, for example, the Witcher 3 on PS3 just because of some new controller support.

I would really like to see your point of view why it is a better business decision to stay with consoles and why do you think consoles is actually gonna "take off". Because I think it "took off" when the SNES came out.
The console industry is the strongest it has ever been over the past few years. With the big three (Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360) selling over 240 million units worldwide, I think that's a pretty fair statement to make. 

However - after about 8 years, they're getting pretty stagnant. Devs have pushed them to their limits, and now people want something new to play with. This has always been the case, and there is no exception here. Improved graphics, improved capabilities, even more gimmicks - you name it, the new generation will bring it. And the audience from the last generation become the primary fanbase for these new consoles, meaning the amount of console gamers will, generally speaking, only continue to grow. 

As for the whole "taking off" thing - I said they'd take off more than ever, not just taking off, meaning that consoles are only going to keep doing better over time. If you meant that you think the industry was at its prime during the SNES period, I'd recommend you compare sales figures from that time to the ones I listed above.
 

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@Zozma: Yeah, but what is it about full electronic that you do not like? Is it because you cannot sell/trade your game? or maybe you cannot bring the game over to a friends place? What if there was some kind of trade in system like you get 50% credit back of your original purchase price if you where to sell/trade it? The the percentage will decrease base the the age of the game. Or what if you could go to your friends place, then go on to his smart TV and just log in into your account and play your games. 
There's quite a lot I don't like about the idea of a fully electronic game maket, though a lot of it does come down to sentimental reasons and a stubborn unwillingness to make certain purchases when it comes to technology. The latter is hardly universal, though I think the former has some merit. There's a lot to be said about going into a used game store or a big chain and seeing all the boxes lined up. You can weigh one purchase against another, easily see what the broader spectrum of modern gaming has to offer. Used game stores also offer games for old consoles, and by now we've learned companies are only willing to make so many of them available through download. An all electronic market would kill game stores. When it comes to returns, I've never heard of being able to sell electronic purchases.

Mind, I handle almost all my PC gaming through electronic markets, because I don't know of any store, specialty or otherwise, that sells a satisfactory variety of PC games, and of course you can't trade them back.
 

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@Zozma: Yea, I know exactly what you mean. Also I do not know of any selling electronic purchases either, it was just a what if. But you know how block buster is almost dead because of Netflix? I think the same thing is gonna happen gamestop after this "movement" happens (if it happens). Places like Gamestop needs a physical location which is so much more money then electronic location. And game companies do not really care what happens to Gamestop. (places like gamestop actually hurts game companies because most people just buy used games and are losing a lot of money from that, combined with piracy)

I also like that feeling you get when your in a game store looking at piles of games, but I also find browsing on something like PSN more convenient. Example: You want an RPG? Click the RPG genre etc etc. What an electronic store can do is lets say you are not sure you want to buy this game. Click on the game there will be options like Demo, Reviews, Trailers, etc. 

Also for the older/worst games. You still have your ps3/2 or whatever in your closet prolly in the next 15 years. No reason why you cant just plug that in.

But the important thing is that you can play every new game out there. You no longer need to pay for two systems if you are both a God of War fan and a Mario fan. Sony lose money for every PS3 sold, this is the same with Microsoft. Also game dev companies would love making just one version of the game where everyone can buy it instead of the population that owns the system.

@Lord: You have no idea what I am talking about.  
 

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@Lord: You have no idea what I am talking about.  
Then care to explain? This is supposed to be a discussion, after all  ;)
 

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Difference between Xbox 360 and Xbox 720 is that 720 can do a double flip.


I have VITA so I'm not anti-consolist or anything like that.


I still play games what are made before Doom was even released and I don't


care if someone thinks it is weird.
 
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