Passability bug?

[OcRam]

Hello and thanks for reading this.

I have no plugins in this project at all. Just fresh project. If I place passable tile (o) at the edge of cliff it will allow to pass over the cliff both ways. Is this ment to be this way? I was wondering if any one else have this kind of problem?


Thank you for your time.

 

[TheoAllen]

If I recall correctly, VXAce has the same problem without script. It could be because the passability is being overwritten by anything in the top of the layers. Unfortunately, I have no solution either. I guess someone needs to write a plugin to fix this

 

[OcRam]

If I recall correctly, VXAce has the same problem without script. It could be because the passability is being overwritten by anything in the top of the layers. Unfortunately, I have no solution either. I guess someone needs to write a plugin to fix this

Thank you for the quick answer. Ok I just wanted to know if it's only me who had this issue. Gladly I have plugin (OcRam_Passages) that will take care of this, and much more... at least in next version

 

[Alexander Hawksmoor]

As far as I was aware, you could fix this using the 4 way passability, I could be wrong though.

 

[Andar]

the problem here is the way how Ace simulates a two-level-dungeon.
with only regular floor and ceiling tiles (the upper cliff uses ceiling tiles), there is a directional block that prevents moving between floor and ceiling.
to allow for passing between them (ladders etc) you'll need to place an override for passability on the top cliff, but unfortunately every passable upper tiles counts as such an override, which means it's your plant that overrides the block between upper cliff and lower cliff here.

The simplest solution is not to place passable decorations at the top of such a barrier.
Repairing the original problem is not easy, but there might be scripts out there for this.

 

[Shaz]

As far as I was aware, you could fix this using the 4 way passability,

no, because it's not the passability of the cliff that is the problem, it's the passability of the patch of grass on top. That is O which means you can go on/off in any direction. As soon as the engine sees that on the top layer, it says you can go in any direction. Only if the grass patch had a star passability would it even look at the settings on the tile below (the cliff), but then that'd also make the grass patch appear in front of the player, so that's not an option.

I wrote a plugin that lets you use terrain tags on tiles to make the engine ignore that tile's passability and look at the one on the next layer (similar to the star setting, but it doesn't draw the tile in front of the player), but the OP already has a plugin that will take care of it.