People's Choice Voting?

[runic]

Yeah, it's kind of sad what seems to be happening with the voting, but I'm sure it'll be ok!...maybe lol.

 

[aspirestudios]

We had a pretty big burst last night and it was quite awesome seeing the team happy over Skype as everyone was just telling their friends and family and asking them to check it out and leave a vote if they liked. Kinda got everyone's spirit up last night ...aaaaaand then I got up in the morning and Eden was 150 votes behind. Bummer, oh well, we'll keep trying. Still got some friends to pester, we might as well get people to look over it as we plan to expand it post-contest anyway.

Good luck to all!

 

[Zorax87]

When I had a look at the top ten, one stuck out in particular as being odd. It had several guest comments, two of which spelled one word wrong but in the same fashion. I've judged contests before (but never of this caliber, it's exciting!) but that's one of the most common slip-ups cheats tend to make. Hopefully the right team wins the contest!

 

[xabileug]

yeah, the people's choice is a really hard to make fair contest. anomalies in game page basing info only on comments, tweets, fb likes, some games have high votes despite low values of the other said parameters. especially when judging the quality of their games. that's reality. 

 

[Zorax87]

yeah, the people's choice is a really hard to make fair contest. anomalies in game page basing info only on comments, tweets, fb likes, some games have high votes despite low values of the other said parameters. especially when judging the quality of their games. that's reality. 

It's honestly a real shame. I've noticed two entries in particular that have been absolutely slated on the forums but have somehow managed to race ahead in the People's Choice votes. Awkwardly enough, they seem to gain a burst of votes every now and then when they're no longer in first place, and then somehow miraculously stop once they reclaim a safe first place. I do find that somewhat uncomfortable. Especially when some great titles have just a few votes here and there.

(I might sound bitter but I was too late to the party to join. I just have a soft spot for one of the entries in particular.)

 

[EternalShadow]

yeah, the people's choice is a really hard to make fair contest. anomalies in game page basing info only on comments, tweets, fb likes, some games have high votes despite low values of the other said parameters. especially when judging the quality of their games. that's reality. 

Reality can be changed!!! /#shamelessplug

 

[kartersaint]

Guessing top 5 are non-RPG Maker.

Including top 10, only 2 ~ 3 games are made by RPG Maker.

I thought the forum can show the power but... well. 

 

[Cinnamon]

Guessing top 5 are non-RPG Maker.

Including top 10, only 2 ~ 3 games are made by RPG Maker.

I thought the forum can show the power but... well. 

Don't worry, the contest is hosted by the publishers of RPG Maker... I'm sure the RM titles stand a fair chance at the other prizes.

 

[kartersaint]

Don't worry, the contest is hosted by the publishers of RPG Maker... I'm sure the RM titles stand a fair chance at the other prizes.

If they really want to, they already made the contest as RPG Maker only. LOL

I don't think the result will be different on final days. Unless there is a miracle. Holy miracle which innovates everything!

 

[Diego2112]

It's honestly a real shame. I've noticed two entries in particular that have been absolutely slated on the forums but have somehow managed to race ahead in the People's Choice votes. Awkwardly enough, they seem to gain a burst of votes every now and then when they're no longer in first place, and then somehow miraculously stop once they reclaim a safe first place. I do find that somewhat uncomfortable. Especially when some great titles have just a few votes here and there.

(I might sound bitter but I was too late to the party to join. I just have a soft spot for one of the entries in particular.)

I've noticed that as well.  It's...  Well, it's odd.  I mean, I'm not saying it's NOT legit, but it is very, VERY fishy.  

And I know likes != votes, shares != votes, but seriously, having 200+ votes and having a tenth of the likes and tweets?  It just seems very off to me.

Again, not saying it's cheating, but as there is no verification process to the account creation, it wouldn't be a stretch for someone to A) spam the crap out of tosser email accounts and vote, 2) set up a bot to do that FOR them, or C) go to one of those sites that do that kind of thing FOR you and pay them for votes.

Still, I feel that in the end, those who are honest about it will be rewarded.  At least that's what I HOPE.  *Nods*

GOIN' DOWN SWINGING!

 

[Cinnamon]

If they really want to, they already made the contest as RPG Maker only. LOL

I don't think the result will be different on final days. Unless there is a miracle. Holy miracle which innovates everything!

Public voting is entirely different from the judge's voting. I'm fairly certain the judges will select at least several RM titles.

Unless you are referring to the public poll?

 

[EternalShadow]

They will most likely check IP addresses/emails of votes in top 10 and DQ cheaters at the end.

 

[TerminusEst13]

Is it possible to track votes by IP? If people are using the same computer to register fake accounts over and over and over, something like that would weed them out really quickly.

edit: beaten

 

[Cinnamon]

Is it possible to track votes by IP? If people are using the same computer to register fake accounts over and over and over, something like that would weed them out really quickly.

edit: beaten

Yeah, but it's also extremely easy to vote using a different IP address.  Hell, if someone is so desperate to win they could go to Starbucks, McDonalds, their friends place, use proxies, different wifi, etc. etc.

 

[kartersaint]

They will most likely check IP addresses/emails of votes in top 10 and DQ cheaters at the end.

They need to do that earlier than late. There's no meaning if they did that on the final day of the contest because others already lost their chances and the section will be under chaos by the angry spammer. Better faster than later to make fair contest.

 

[kartersaint]

Yeah, but it's also extremely easy to vote using a different IP address.  Hell, if someone is so desperate to win they could go to Starbucks, McDonalds, their friends place, use proxies, different wifi, etc. etc.

Just it's finished if someone used Pirate Browser. LoL

 

[teamcrimson]

I'm not sure if this could be considered bad sportsmanship, but do you think it would be acceptable if we posted the name of the games you suspect are cheating (provided you have solid evidence or at the very least very strong reasons to believe someone is cheating) ?

IP checking is not an efficient method of checking for fake votes in itself because of proxies and other various ways to get fake IPs, so I'm not exactly sure how they can check if the winner is legitimate or not.

 

[Cinnamon]

I'm not sure if this could be considered bad sportsmanship, but do you think it would be acceptable if we posted the name of the games you suspect are cheating (provided you have solid evidence or at the very least very strong reasons to believe someone is cheating) ?

IP checking is not an efficient method of checking for fake votes in itself because of proxies and other various ways to get fake IPs, so I'm not exactly sure how they can check if the winner is legitimate or not.

+1

This is true. A lot of people always use proxies and such for protection. It doesn't necessarily mean a vote is fake if it's concealed behind a proxy. The only proper way to do this would've been to either eliminate registration altogether for voting or to force e-mail confirmation and put a block on spam e-mails.

 

[kartersaint]

+1

This is true. A lot of people always use proxies and such for protection. It doesn't necessarily mean a vote is fake if it's concealed behind a proxy. The only proper way to do this would've been to either eliminate registration altogether for voting or to force e-mail confirmation and put a block on spam e-mails.

It's too late to get those systems.

 

[Zorax87]

I'm not sure if this could be considered bad sportsmanship, but do you think it would be acceptable if we posted the name of the games you suspect are cheating (provided you have solid evidence or at the very least very strong reasons to believe someone is cheating) ?

IP checking is not an efficient method of checking for fake votes in itself because of proxies and other various ways to get fake IPs, so I'm not exactly sure how they can check if the winner is legitimate or not.

As I mentioned, I do find it suspicious that the top two entries keep getting sudden bursts of votes whenever the other knocks them back into second; for instance, one seemed to get about 30-40 votes in about half an hour (made even more suspicious considering it's been slated with the best review on the forums giving it 2/5) and then settled again. Then the other did the exact same, both of them just surfing to the top with a small margin of ten votes in front.

And if they use certain methods (of which I would not name here for obvious reasons considering the state of the contest) they cannot be traced via any method, including checking the IPs. Apparently, I've seen a few people mention they saw one of the top three (I won't say, for the sake of that I do not know how true it is) be advertised on a website asking people to vote for cash.

I honestly hope not but this is the internet.