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or even try to tackle Victory Road because there's nothing on that path that I can't obtain elsewhere in the game. 


Well if your aim is to complete the national pokedex, the safari helps a lot to catch many pokemon.


Even if you don't play competitively, catching some pokemon with hidden abilities is nice...


Also some clothes only appear after you finish the main route. And Looker's quest is quite nice.


It's indeed not a lot, but even then it's nice, and really the best par of x/y's story is looker's quest in my opinion...

...and even without it your main pokemon are overleveled. This never happened happen in gen 1 or 2 (started in gen 3 I think) and I couldn't even beat the elite four with my main's in the second game (a situation where the game made me have to rethink my strategy besides level up more).


Nope, one can rush the entire game with just typhlosion, even if we cry because miltank will hurt... you can easily dispose that cow with your own rollout. or you could try using fire wheel and pry for a critical or a burn... (because of the old xp system it was really easy to have a typhlosion on the third gym if you only evel up him/her)


Still not impossible, and after witney the only real trouble comes as claire with kingdra wich is neutral to thunderpunch wich is the water destroyer move.


The league even has crappy pokemon, the strongest being lance's dragonite at 50.


As a kid I literally went with 30 revives, 5 fodder pokemon and typhlosion and still won the league... So yes, as a kid I already know how to spam revives :p


If I play today I may go with totodile and crush everyone's dream with ice beam and surf thou...

Has there ever been a trainer that has pokemon even as tough as red did in the second generation?


Steven Stone appears as a bonus boss in Emerald, it's even stronger than red on G/S/C, but weaker than RED at HG/SS.


The only "problem" with steven is that he is really weak to earth. fire and figthing types.

It probably has one of the best region layouts.
When I played platinum I really felt than the routes were smaller... until I entered MT. Coronet, and was running an hour and a half to get to the peak...


Also Cynthia is best girl.
 

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I agree with XY being lacking. The story felt forced at times I honestly think XY was a massive nod to RBY, similar to what @Seacliff mentioned the encounters with Team Flare almost felt like mirrors to Team Rocket. The game was unnecessarily dragged out, I ALWAYS complete Pokemon games before my little brother but XY was the first he finished before I did (by almost 2 weeks even). I tried to go through the game again with no starter and EXP Share and even then it's disgustingly easy I still haven't finished the game, it's too boring.


I did quite enjoy DPP, but I still think it's too "slow", but I think it has legitimate difficulty compared to other Pokemon games (plus it has some of the most beautiful music out of battle music in the franchise). I find BW/2 great, the first time they actually tried with a narrative but I agree with @Tai_MT, early on the questioning of being a "Trainer" was just... dropped. Though it was refreshing, all new Pokemon (as opposed to a crap 72 new, seriously XY just cut corners), had a "modern" feel, difficult (but the anti-grinding feature played a big part in that) and while the sequel lacked in narrative, made up for mechanics wise.


I guess my main problem is that Pokemon is getting easier and easier with the new instalments. With Sun and Moon you know what attack will be super effective or not from the moves in battle? The games were never too hard for newer people to get into. Red and Blue was accessible enough for the 5-10 years olds back then in 1996, so what's changed? You just have more options and the advent of abilities. Seriously, as much as I was looking forward to ORAS I was disappointed in how much easier it was compared to the original. Sure RSE was the more easier games (Swampert, Gardevoir and Breloom net you the game and they're first forms are all before the first gym), but it's just eh. A large part of me wants Sun and Moon to be the last main games (because a lot of spin offs are actually good!) so Game Freak can focus on making a new IP or something.
 

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A large part of me wants Sun and Moon to be the last main games (because a lot of spin offs are actually good!) so Game Freak can focus on making a new IP or something.
Or at the very least, they should have generations be longer. Five years should be plenty.


I think Game Freak is a bit overwhelmed with how many spinoffs they feel obligated to do each generation. (Like Mystery Dungeon and Rumble appearing 1-2 times each generation), and honestly 6th gen felt a bit lacking with spinoffs with more focus on Free-to-Play and Mobile. Where's Conquest 2? Surely the first Conquest selling 1 million units was considered good for a first in a new spinoff series. Of course I can't blame Koei for making YouKai Watch a tatical game instead, that sold pretty well for a Japanese only title.


I'm half expecting Pokemon Go to be released July 1st shortly after the Pokemon direct, but even if it isn't we'll likely get a more specific release date that was mentioned to be sometime in July.
 

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I'm pretty mixed. This is slowly turning into my least favorite expansion but there are some good ones. For example, that square bug isn't very appealing, but it's evolution is pretty cool.


Does anyone know what the electric rodent is this time around? It looks like a a fatter version of Dedenne. I tried looking up different rodents found in Hawaii, but I keep getting mongooses and rats.


It's obviously not a mongoose, so I guess it could be a rat? It seems odd since Pikachu, Plusle, and Minon are all Mice, so I thought they would be slightly more original with a different rodent spices.


Edit: It's probably a Porcupine, come to think of it.
 
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Plusle and Minun looked more like rabbits to me, and emolga is obviously a flying squirrel.  I also assumed pikachu was based on the pika.  


After all, not all of a region's pokemon are based on the real place's animals.  There's no camels in Japan, no monkeys in America, or parrots in France.
 

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After all, not all of a region's pokemon are based on the real place's animals.  There's no camels in Japan, no monkeys in America, or parrots in France.
I felt the regional electric rodents might have a little more thought behind them though. For example, France was one of the first counties where it became popular to have gerbils as pets, so I thought that was the thought process behind Dedenne. And Flying Squirrels are by no means rare in America.


But then again, nothing about Hokkaido really relates to squirrels.

I also assumed pikachu was based on the pika. 
Last time we had this discussion here, we all agreed that the Pika was a rabbit, and despite what a guidebook for Pokemon snap said it likely had little to do with Pikachu's design. Pikachu got it's name for literally translating into 'Sparkle Squeak'.


Edit: WAIIIT a minute.





What if the new rodent is based on the Pika?
 
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I can only say, the "real Cuteflies" are even cuter:


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You may take into account that the original Pikachu looked a lot more like the Pika than now...


Still loved cutefly and sonic-chu's design
 

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That does actually make sense, and would be a nice bit of Fridge Brilliance, particularly if this is the Last One.  A pikaclone actually based on a pika.  (Which, while lagomorphs are not rabbits, but that's another discussion.)
 

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I'm pretty mixed. This is slowly turning into my least favorite expansion but there are some good ones. For example, that square bug isn't very appealing, but it's evolution is pretty cool.


Does anyone know what the electric rodent is this time around? It looks like a a fatter version of Dedenne. I tried looking up different rodents found in Hawaii, but I keep getting mongooses and rats.


It's obviously not a mongoose, so I guess it could be a rat? It seems odd since Pikachu, Plusle, and Minon are all Mice, so I thought they would be slightly more original with a different rodent spices.


Edit: It's probably a Porcupine, come to think of it.


I'm kind of in that club right now as well...  The leaked Pokémon are looking more and more like the crap that was released in Black and White... or the later numbers of the dex in DPP.


In short.... complete crap.  I'm pretty sure it's not impossible to make cool looking Pokémon.  Maybe they need to fire their art team and hire people with new ideas?
 

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Ahem. I would like to point out that ever since Gen 1 there have been crappy and uncreative Pokemon designs. I would like to bring out Exhibit A, for lack of creativity, Rattata, Ekans, Mankey (for the name, not design), and, my personal favorite, Voltorb and Electrode. They literally took a Pokeball, gave it angry eyes, then flipped it upside down. I could go on here, but Voltorb tops them all. For crappy, I bring to the table Golbat, Gloom, Diglett and Dugtrio, Mankey (again), Victreebel and its pre-evos, Magnemite and Magneton, Grimer and Muk are literally made of raw sewage, the list goes on. In fact, many of the original sprites made even the good-looking Pokemon look crappy. Have you seen Charizard's original sprites? Not pretty.





Just to clarify, I'm not defending bad design choices. In fact, that fish is the ugliest designed Pokemon I've ever seen. I'm just saying that you can't lose what you never had. Pokemon designs have always had a few good ones that were outweighed by a lot more bad ones. But nostalgia has vindicated the original 151, and to a lesser extent the Pokemon introduced in Johto and Hoenn, and made it to where now we can't see the bad designs as anything but good. If Trubbish and Garbodor were among the original 151 we would be defending the design as great against all evidence pointing contrary. And if Grimer and Muk were among the Pokemon introduced in Gen 5 we would be pointing our fingers and laughing, holding it up as an example of Game Freak's lack of creativity. Please remove your nostalgia goggles and take a good look at your childhood before you start criticizing the present.


That said, my opinion of the new Pokemon designs. I love all of them except for the fish. I hate that fish. And maybe the Pika-clone. I'm meh about the Pika-clone. Also, I have found my new favorite Bug-type Pokemon. That electric beetle is the coolest looking bug I've ever seen. I honestly don't care what anyone says. Besides that butt-ugly fish, this generation is shaping up to be my favorite one yet.
 
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Ahem. I would like to point out that ever since Gen 1 there have been crappy and uncreative Pokemon designs. I would like to bring out Exhibit A, for lack of creativity, Rattata, Ekans, Mankey (for the name, not design), and, my personal favorite, Voltorb and Electrode. They literally took a Pokeball, gave it angry eyes, then flipped it upside down. I could go on here, but Voltorb tops them all. For crappy, I bring to the table Golbat, Gloom, Diglett and Dugtrio, Mankey (again), Victreebel and its pre-evos, Magnemite and Magneton, Grimer and Muk are literally made of raw sewage, the list goes on. In fact, many of the original sprites made even the good-looking Pokemon look crappy. Have you seen Charizard's original sprites? Not pretty.





Just to clarify, I'm not defending bad design choices. In fact, that fish is the ugliest designed Pokemon I've ever seen. I'm just saying that you can't lose what you never had. Pokemon designs have always had a few good ones that were outweighed by a lot more bad ones. But nostalgia has vindicated the original 151, and to a lesser extent the Pokemon introduced in Johto and Hoenn, and made it to where now we can't see the bad designs as anything but good. If Trubbish and Garbodor were among the original 151 we would be defending the design as great against all evidence pointing contrary. And if Grimer and Muk were among the Pokemon introduced in Gen 5 we would be pointing our fingers and laughing, holding it up as an example of Game Freak's lack of creativity. Please remove your nostalgia goggles and take a good look at your childhood before you start criticizing the present.


That said, my opinion of the new Pokemon designs. I love all of them except for the fish. I hate that fish. And maybe the Pika-clone. I'm meh about the Pika-clone. Also, I have found my new favorite Bug-type Pokemon. That electric beetle is the coolest looking bug I've ever seen. I honestly don't care what anyone says. Besides that butt-ugly fish, this generation is shaping up to be my favorite one yet.


I'm sorry, but I resent the notion that just because I think the new Pokémon look like the art team is creatively bankrupt at this point, I somehow have "nostalgia goggles" on.  If there were any worse way to defend your liking of the new Pokémon, I can't see one.


Nobody was defending the designs of previous generations.  Nobody was even saying those generations designs were BETTER.  Nope, not even me.


If you want to know what I really think... then I suggest you reread my post without the personal bias of "I love the new Pokémon designs and most Pokémon look like crap".


But, if you would like me to explain my position, I will.


1.  Early versions get a pass from me for two reasons.  The first reason is that Pokémon didn't exist until Generation 1.  There were no Pokeball looking Pokémon until those first games.  So, while they look like crap by today's standards, for their time, they were original.  The second reason is that early versions of Pokémon had to work with the limitations they had and under the assumption that there probably wouldn't be sequels and there'd be no franchise.  Pokémon was created, essentially, as a means to sell the Link Cable accessory for the original Gameboy.  So, while I don't like the massive overuse of the color purple in Gen 1, or the vast majority of even the mons in Gen 1, it gets a pass because it was the first in a series that nobody had planned to ever be as massively successful as it turned out to be.


2.  The problem with any Gen after Gen 1, is that if you have any "repeat" type Pokémon, your originality in terms of design immediately plummets.  I don't know about you, but I'm sick of dogs, caterpillers, bats, generic birds, Pikachu clones and standins, cats, Pokeball themed Pokémon, and inanimate objects as Pokémon.  The animal kingdom is quite diverse and fascinating and interesting with lots of cool things to choose from...  Same with lore from around the planet about legendary or mythic beasts.  So, the more of these "repeats" we get, the less original a design team appears (or variations of already existing Pokémon, for that matter... like the 9000000000000000 dogs across the games which are usually Normal types... or Dark types...)  In short, the more Pikachu clones, caterpillers, dogs, and bats you throw into each subsequent game...  The less original you gradually become as each new generation releases.  It's a problem NOW because of all the generations BEFORE it.  The complaints of "unoriginality" wouldn't exist were we in Gen 3 instead of Gen 7 or 8 or whatever the crap it is now.


3.  I don't care if a Pokémon looks "ugly".  I care that it looks...  boring.  Or stupid.  Or silly.  Or nonsensical.  I find Haxorus to be about the ugliest Pokémon in existence, but I don't find it to be silly, nonsensical, stupid, or boring.  It isn't pleasing to look at, but that's not really my complaint.  A "cool" Pokémon in my opinion is anything that doesn't resemble something as moronic as a snowflake... icecream cone... chess piece... jigglypuff... clefairy... a keychain... a candle... a totem pole... a Pikachu knockoff like Dedenne... a garbage heap or pollution slick... a freakin' balloon... a tree stump (okay, a haunted TREE was pretty freakin' cool... the tree stump? pretty freakin' stupid)... a freakin' jack 'o lantern... a stunfisk... a basculin... a freakin' blob Pokémon (why are there so many inanimate blobs of whatever as Pokémon?  Ditto, Grimer, Muk, whatever the crap Castform is... whatever the crap that molecule thing is in X and Y... Trubbish and its evolutions...)...  why is there a bell, windchime, and keychain as Pokémon?  That list is getting larger with each new generation in which they don't take animals and creatures that could potentially be awesome Pokémon and instead look around their office cubicles for things to turn into Pokémon due to creative bankruptcy.  What next?  A Styrofoam cup Pokémon?  A Pokémon that looks like a Dachsen (no, I can't spell that word...)?


4.  When I've got more interesting ideas than their design team... it really is time to get rid of the lot of them.  Let me just throw some ideas out there for possible interesting Pokémon...  What if we had a Snapdragon like Pokémon that was Grass/Dragon?  You could probably even make it look particularly terrifying if you designed it right.  How about... an actual Firefly type bug (nope, Volbeat and Illumise don't count because they look like beetles instead of fireflies) which is a Fire/Bug type?  How about a Hummingbird Pokémon?  How about a Dolphin Pokémon?  What about a Ghost Pokémon that is an animated skeleton of some sort (could even be the skeleton of other Pokémon... you could even have forms of it you could capture and each might have a different ability based on the skeleton of the previous Pokémon)?  A mosquito Pokémon?  How about a Dark type that looks like an Iguana?  You could go on and on for cool typings for existing animals and stylize them to fit their types.  Even if some of those ideas sound silly, at least they're original... and aren't based on like say... a stapler... or a screen squeegee.  When you're turning everyday objects you use into Pokémon, you've pretty much given up on ever creating new and original content.


My issue is that more and more Pokémon, as we get into new generations, is looking less and less like they're actually trying to make a cool game with mons you want to collect and use.  Heck, the whole premise of my team in Pokémon X and Y is "Pokémon that just look awesome".  Anytime you can say "I punched out a bat with a T-Rex" is pretty much instantly awesome.  But, if you have to say, "I killed that dragon with an icecream cone"... it sounds... well... stupid instead of awesome.


Honestly, at this point, I am waiting to see if we get like a Stapler or Baseball Bat Pokémon.  Or a Pokémon that's somehow a car.  Or another Pokémon that's essentially a pile of garbage like dirty laundry or something.  I mean, we already have a washing machine... why not a pile of dirty clothes that the washing machine is super effective to?


I want less repetition and silly Pokémon.  I'd like more interesting creatures.
 

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I liked the article's idea of fusion pokemon. The mouse thing (which was my least favorite of the bunch) does look like a togepi/defense.


I highly doubt they'll implement fusions, but it would be so cool!


On another note, the square bug was so hilarious that I really like the design.
 

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Couple of things:


As far as inanimate objects go, remember that this is a Japanese series, and Japanese lore includes tsukumogami, inanimate objects imbued with supernatural life.  So, a trickster fairy who looks like a keyring isn't such a stretch.  The Rotom appliances are all callbacks to the film Poultergeist, with the ghost in the Tv.  Magnemite was basically a little robot monster, from back when pokemon were treated like monsters instead of animal replacements.  


And you know what?  I like Trubbish.  I like Vanillite.  I like Cryoganal, and pretty much all of those others you mentioned.  And you can't really even say they're unoriginal, because we haven't seen the likes of them before.


And to say "another bird" is literally the same as saying "another reptile." These are huge, encompassing groups of animals.  A robin is not a pidgeon, is not an owl, is not a falcon, is not a swallow.  Even if all dogs are the same species, there are huge differences between breeds.  Your suggestion of a dark iguana could easily be dismissed as "another lizard."  


Am I saying they're all perfect?  No, of course not.  The chess-themed pawniard line (a poniard, btw is a type of dagger) would have benefited from forme changes for all the back-row chess pieces.  Klink could have evolved into an automaton like magearna.  Muk should have been more than a big, angry Grimer.  


And do you really not see the humor in a big, scary dragon being trounced by an ice cream cone?  That's just golden to me.  
 

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Couple of things:


As far as inanimate objects go, remember that this is a Japanese series, and Japanese lore includes tsukumogami, inanimate objects imbued with supernatural life.  So, a trickster fairy who looks like a keyring isn't such a stretch.  The Rotom appliances are all callbacks to the film Poultergeist, with the ghost in the Tv.  Magnemite was basically a little robot monster, from back when pokemon were treated like monsters instead of animal replacements.  


And you know what?  I like Trubbish.  I like Vanillite.  I like Cryoganal, and pretty much all of those others you mentioned.  And you can't really even say they're unoriginal, because we haven't seen the likes of them before.


And to say "another bird" is literally the same as saying "another reptile." These are huge, encompassing groups of animals.  A robin is not a pidgeon, is not an owl, is not a falcon, is not a swallow.  Even if all dogs are the same species, there are huge differences between breeds.  Your suggestion of a dark iguana could easily be dismissed as "another lizard."  


Am I saying they're all perfect?  No, of course not.  The chess-themed pawniard line (a poniard, btw is a type of dagger) would have benefited from forme changes for all the back-row chess pieces.  Klink could have evolved into an automaton like magearna.  Muk should have been more than a big, angry Grimer.  


And do you really not see the humor in a big, scary dragon being trounced by an ice cream cone?  That's just golden to me.  


Well, when I mean "another bird", I'm referring to, in fact, the whole "This is a Flying/Normal type".  When all the birds of different species are interchangeable in terms of typings and maybe even movesets...  Then yeah, it's "just another bird".  Same reason it's "just another dog".  Legendary dogs?  Okay, they don't look like traditional dogs and they've got different typings for them.  Interesting.  A lil' weiner dog that's typed as simply a Normal?  I'll pass.  I've got about 15 of those to choose from.


I really also don't have issue with things like magnemite 'cause it's a weird robot thingie that doesn't really have a physical world analogue.  I do have issues with things like snowflakes and ice-cream cones and keychains...  It simply opens the door for even more silliness like inanimate doors being pokemon... or books!  Or... gasp... bags of potato chips!


For me, it really undermines the power of an entire type of Pokémon when an ICE CREAM CONE can beat them.  Watch out kids, it's three-headed Ghidora!  Oh, nevermind, it's summer, they're selling icecream!  Pelt it with icecream and it'll die!  No need to go get Godzilla on this one!  Sure, it's funny...  But... for the same token... it really kind of slaps a whole typing in the face to have such a ridiculous Pokémon beat them.  The fairy typing doesn't help out the Dragons much either...  But, that's neither here nor there.  It would be like fighting birds with a coat-hanger Pokémon that is electric typed simply because it can carry a static charge...  Frankly, it's silly.


You're welcome to enjoy whatever Pokémon you like.  I just don't think those Pokémon are that... great.  I think they're fairly uninspired and unoriginal.  I don't typically have issues with "possessed objects" either, so long as those objects come directly from lore somewhere and not some vague concept of lore that allows them to basically make a ghost pokemon out of a bottle cap and call it a "new Pokémon".  Possessed Jack O' Lantern?  Okay, fine.  It's original.  But, it's still kind of stupid...


At least, in my opinion, these Pokémon are pretty stupid and they could've done more interesting things with them.  I'd have probably given vanillite a pass if it's ability made it weak to moves like "Lick" or "Crunch" or "Bite" or things like that (to play on the fact it's an icecream cone" and it had alternate forms in which it came in different flavors.  I would've probably given it a pass then...  But... it's a generic Ice Type that looks like ice cream.  Just like we have a generic ice type that looks like a snowflake.  What's for the next generation?  A generic Ice type that looks like a pile of snow?


I just want the people who make the games to try more to make their Pokémon at least interesting, if they're going to be freakin' silly.  I dont' want to be playing the games in 10 more years and have the Microsoft Paperclip as a Pokémon.  That's just not something I'd like to play...
 

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By your same logic, though, a fire breathing dragon is unoriginal.  


And what the heck is a "generic ice type?" There's like, eight ice pokemon (exaggeration, but you get the point) and they're all different.  A woolly mammoth, a ghostly succubus, a ninja badger, a yeti, a sea monster... and, yeah, an ice cream cone.  


 Now, I do think there were missed opportunities.  Sigilyph could have had multiple forms to coincide with the other Nazca drawings.  Cryoganal could have evolved into some sort of blizzard titan.  


As for typing, the typing system as a whole is kind of broken.  Many types, like Ice and Grass, are basically discriminated against by the mechanics.  For every disadvantage/weakness, they ought to have an advantage/resistance, to keep things balanced.  So, some type combinations just aren't that viable, unless you give them pseudo-legendary stats, like Volcarona.  A Fire/Bug firefly is great, until you go up against anything with a rock move.  True, there are viable combinations we haven't seen yet: Grass/Electric, Ice/Fairy, Flying/Fighting...  And these would all give some pretty great opportunities.  


And, clearly, a dachshund pokemon would be Fire (hot dog!).  


Maybe we ought to start a thread where we create a pokedex for the Arum region...?
 

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@captainproton - A standard fire breathing dragon is unoriginal, but how many does Pokemon have?


Now count how many pidgey clones there are (normal/flying type and generally found towards the beginning of the game).  Sure they might look a little different each other, but they are boring as boring can get.  Then add the caterpie clones, pikachu lookalikes, etc to see that you are starting to amass a big number of boring designed Pokemon.


I wouldn't think Gamefreak is getting lazy if they added a few pidgey clones, caterpie clones, etc. But we do not need this many generic pokemon that are very slightly different? We even already had two normal/flying in the 1st gen that filled the same role (pidgey and sparrow, with the chain sparrow just being flat out better) why do we need to keep having so many added into that role other than to artificially inflate the numbers?  They don't add anything in the end and just feel lazy.



Can we have things like a firefly, water walking spider, daddy long legs, turkey, etc instead?  If the types are to weak to be viable to make certain types, why not fix the problem as the gamedev? It's not like they haven't changed stuff like this before recently (or even toward the beginning).  Perhaps even add a ability to that pokemon that fixes the issues with it, if they do not want to mess with the typed?  


And if they are doing this to hit some quota of pokemon numbers for each generation, I have to ask why is this a priority.  I wonder if people would prefer more pokemon to the point of adding like 20 to 50 clones and/or filler pokemon each generation or to use those resources to create more gameplay features, more story content, etc.
 

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By your same logic, though, a fire breathing dragon is unoriginal.  


And what the heck is a "generic ice type?" There's like, eight ice pokemon (exaggeration, but you get the point) and they're all different.  A woolly mammoth, a ghostly succubus, a ninja badger, a yeti, a sea monster... and, yeah, an ice cream cone.  


 Now, I do think there were missed opportunities.  Sigilyph could have had multiple forms to coincide with the other Nazca drawings.  Cryoganal could have evolved into some sort of blizzard titan.  


As for typing, the typing system as a whole is kind of broken.  Many types, like Ice and Grass, are basically discriminated against by the mechanics.  For every disadvantage/weakness, they ought to have an advantage/resistance, to keep things balanced.  So, some type combinations just aren't that viable, unless you give them pseudo-legendary stats, like Volcarona.  A Fire/Bug firefly is great, until you go up against anything with a rock move.  True, there are viable combinations we haven't seen yet: Grass/Electric, Ice/Fairy, Flying/Fighting...  And these would all give some pretty great opportunities.  


And, clearly, a dachshund pokemon would be Fire (hot dog!).  


Maybe we ought to start a thread where we create a pokedex for the Arum region...?


if you aren't sure what I mean by "Generic Ice Type" then please see all the Ice types and what they typically are...  We don't even have a ice typed penguin... instead it's like water/steel.  Interesting, sure, but kind of missed a fun opportunity for an ICE TYPE there.  Generic Ice Types usually come in just the two flavors:  Water/Ice or just straight Ice.  When they all learn the same ice moves...  They're... not interesting.  They don't fill a niche anywhere, they're just an interchangeable Pokémon with any other of the same typing and similar movesets.  I mean, if you're going to have a bunch of Pokémon, all the same type like Ice or Ice/Water, you need to at least do something interesting with them.  If not making them look absolutely awesome, then doing something with their movelists or abilities.  You know, like my example of how an Ice Cream Pokémon could've been made interesting above.  Instead... it's just an Ice Type... that learns all the same Ice Moves that every other Ice Type learns... but it's an Icecream cone.  People use it for the novelty and little else.


Also, I like to bring up the example of Gyarados when people say that certain typings are just "underpowered" or "have no chance".  Why does that Pokémon get so much freakin' love from the community and competitive battles when it's got a x4 Weakness to Electricity... which is a common typing nearly everyone has and uses.  Seems to me if Gyarados can be so useful and viable as a Water/Flying type... a Fire/Bug type could be just as viable and useful.  Plus, you could always teach it Fly in order to avoid the rock moves... or give it double-team or something.  Then again, the nature of the Pokémon games is that some Pokémon are weak to some things and others are not.  Why would anyone ever use one of the 400 rock Pokémon when they're x4 weak to both Grass and Water (they're usually Rock/Ground typings)?  People still use them.


I just honestly don't want more generics in my games... Pokémon I've seen before, basically.  Oh look, I can have a pidgeon, a swallow, a pheasant, a sparrow, a second pidgeon thing...  what?  oh no, they're all typed the same, with the same moveset.  Interchangeable?  Yeah, they are.  Not sure why.  I guess Nintendo got too lazy to try to make them interesting or at least distinguishable from each other in terms of even game mechanics.  What?  This dog?  Oh yeah, it's a Dark type, that's why it's different from the other dogs.  What?  Of course I know about that Fire/Dark type with a superior moveset that's also a dog!  Why did they need another dark type dog?  I don't know.  Lazy maybe?


It's just frankly really frustrating to see the FANS of the games having much better ideas than THE PEOPLE PAID TO HAVE IDEAS.
 

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