Pokemon Corner

[Tai_MT]

hey not all the games have those gyms you know

But actually I don't think you're giving the games enough credit. I really thought that BW had amazing plots (as far as pokemon goes), and while BW2 weren't quite as good, I think it's improving. (and yes I loved Colosseum and XD they were so good except i hate double battles).

What I thought was interesting about the plot for Black and White was that instead of "global domination" it was "Pokémon deserve to be free".  And then Nintendo went and screwed all that up by the "big bad" of the games saying the only reason he wanted people to release their pokemon was because he wanted to be the only one with the creatures, so he could rule the world.  This immediately made me facestairs for two reasons.  1.  You just destroyed a perfectly interesting plot about freeing pokemon from servitude and whether or not they were actually serving people as slaves or as friends and partners.  2.  The plan kind of falls to pieces when you realize that people can just catch mons anytime they want, you aren't destroying pokeball technology (which might have been an interesting plot turn, having the badguy target places that create and sell pokeballs, as well as target the people who create the pc systems and pokecenters.  But, the developers don't really care much about plot... so... you know, interesting things get thrown out the window) so people could just catch new mons all over again and stop you.  That, or you know, shoot you dead in the street.  Whichever is easiest.

So, basically, they took what could've essentially been a great story about friendship and partners and working together...  And made it about stopping a guy from achieving world domination (which has been the goal of almost every evil organization in the pokeuniverse aside from Magma and Aqua who were just a bunch of morons who never picked up a Science 101 textbook in their lives, despite their world possessing teleportation and energy storing mechanics well beyond our own).  What they essentially did was like taking a fantastic movie like Pulp Fiction and then in the last 20 minutes of the movie, it turned into all the cast members throwing pies at each other and wearing rubber clown noses.  It also negates anyone being able to count the plot of it as "different", since the goals of the big bad weren't different at all from previous versions.  Which, in all honesty, is frustrating as hell.

As for White2/Black2...  I've yet to beat either one of those games.  I was interested and entertained with them until I left for the mainland and it plopped me down in places I'd been before while keeping me from going back to other areas I should have access to (like the starting area from Black/White).  Though, I enjoyed the "continuation" feature they had where you could link the games to the previous games, I never went far enough into the games to experience it fully.  I guess at some point, I'll have to sit down and complete them, but I just haven't felt like it.  It kind of feels like playing Black/White again, which I really don't have the urge to do, considering I already played both versions once.

Oh, and I looked it up.  No fire or water gym this time.  There is a grass gym again though.  We really need to have some underused types have their own gyms again...  We currently have 18 types of Pokémon now.  Most likely we'll have a Fairy gym dedicated to the new type.  So, here's where this gets fun and I list the types that have had a gym and how many.  Keep in mind that one of the gyms is Gen 1 is a Ground type and in Gen 2 it changes its type to "Mixed" when Blue runs it.  Also keep in mind that one of the gyms in Black/White changes its type depending on what starter you chose.

Bug:  2

Dark:  0

Dragon:  2

Electric:  4

Fighting:  3

Fire:  3

Flying:  3

Ghost:  2

Grass:  3

Ground:  2

Ice:  3

Normal:  3

Poison:  2

Psychic:  2

Rock:  3

Steel:  2

Water:  5

Mixed:  1

Seems odd to me to have so many twos in there.  Why have we still not had a Dark gym as well?  I, for one, would love to see some of the most overused types in player parties be used as a gym set at some point.  Dark, Ghost, Psychic in a lineup of gyms in the same game.  Maybe even throw some Steel types in there and another Dragon.  Maybe have the 8th gym be another "Mixed" type gym as well?  That'd be interesting to do, since it would keep players from just putting the type advantage up first and thinking it could sweep the whole gym.  Just something I'd like to see happen is all.  I doubt it will, but still.

 

[orochii]

That'd be interesting to do, since it would keep players from just putting the type advantage up first and thinking it could sweep the whole gym.

Actually that not only happens with the gyms. The Elite Four does it too, and there are a LOT of trainers that specialize in a type as well (and complete sections of the game, like any stretch of water having swimmers and fishing guys).

Do you know why cool trainers are cool? Because they go for variety! I'm cool too BD ,

Orochii Zouveleki

 

[Tai_MT]

Actually that not only happens with the gyms. The Elite Four does it too, and there are a LOT of trainers that specialize in a type as well (and complete sections of the game, like any stretch of water having swimmers and fishing guys).

Do you know why cool trainers are cool? Because they go for variety! I'm cool too BD ,

Orochii Zouveleki

Yeah, that gets to be an issue as well.  It probably wouldn't be so much of an issue if the types were played well by the trainers who had those mons.  That's one thing I can say about the Elite Four:  Typing is about the only advantage you have against them.  If the Elite Four adopted a more well-rounded team, it would be a lot better (or at least put different types of moves on their mons so they could knock out types that they'd expect you to use against them).  But, just because of their super high levels, it isn't much of an issue what their types are, because it's like the only advantage you'll ever have on them.

 

[hyde9318]

I always thought the E4 shouldn't have types at all. In fact, I would love to see GameFreak take notes on the top five teams of the Pokemon World Championships and base the E4 around that, keep their strategies for the A.I.. If the AI could at least somewhat emulate what those players can do, then the E4 would be hard as hell.

 

[Seacliff]

@Hyde: That's true, I find the best battles in Pokemon are the major ones without set types, Like Champions, Rival Battles, Blue in Gen 2, ect. E4 has also gotten too easy in gen 5, It was hardly a trouble for me unlike back in gen 2 or 3, I say having no set type would keep it from getting too easy or too hard.

 

[Tai_MT]

Also, how would they have gotten into the Elite Four with the types they often choose?  They aren't that Elite of trainers when they can't destroy mons dedicated to super-effectiveness against their own mons.  Elite Four?  More like, "inexplicable four".  If my mons were at their levels, they wouldn't be a challenge.  So, how are these guys even "Elite"?  Is it just in the regions they are in, nobody has mons at those high of levels except them?  That's disconcerting, to say the least...

 

[hyde9318]

While we are on the E4 topic, I was thinking of something. You challenge each member one at a time. You can challenge whenever you feel like it and they are always there... What do the E4 members do on their spare time? Do they seriously just stand in their rooms waiting for people to show up? Why have we never barged into one of the rooms while the member was in the middle of having lunch or something? I mean, many of the games show the champions wandering around the region, but what about the others? Do they not have lives?

 

[Tai_MT]

In FireRed and LeafGreen, you could find Lorelei wandering around sometimes after you beat the Elite Four the first time.  The rest?  I have no idea.

 

[Seacliff]

Don't forget about the Battle with Flint and Volknar at the battle tower.

Then you see Lance in hoenn, but he's a champion by then.

And less we are aloud to mention the Pokemon Adventure manga... yeah, they have no lives.

 

[Tai_MT]

Rituals I learned from Pokémon:

*When the Pokeball is thrown, hit Up+B and hold them, then when the ball shuts, hold A along with them.  This doesn't ensure capture or even raises chances of it, yet I'm still doing it.

*When a Pokémon evolves, I jack my volume to its max setting, even if I have been playing the game muted.  This applies regardless of location.

*I always make my first Capture of the game with a Premier Ball to "commemorate an event".

*Every single Meowth in every game I play, I name in honor of my deceased cat in real life.

*In games in which I can rename my boxes, I have them act as a Pokedex by naming them after numbers (for example, first box is "1-30" and second box is "31-60").

*I actually do try to "catch them all".  That means I have one of every single Pokémon known to man.  I don't just fill my Dex, I fill my boxes.

*I obsessively compulsively talk to every single NPC in the game.

*I try to get all the forms of a single Pokémon in order to put them in the Dex as well.

*I catch every single form of Unknown, even if the rewards for doing so are non-existent or are terrible.

*If badges can be polished, I polish them every single day.

*If berries can be planted, I plant and harvest every single day.  I do this even though I never use berries at all.

*I use up all of my previous pokeballs before buying the next best iterations of them.

*When one of my Pokémon faints, I immediately run tot he nearest healing location to get it revived.

*I order my Pokémon by "weakest first" in order to spread around XP and EVs to those in most dire need of them.  I determine weakest by lowest level and use lowest HP as a tie-breaker for level.

*My one and only Ditto always occupies space at the Daycare Center.

*If Lapras is in the game, it is always the Pokémon I teach Surf to.

*I collect the TMs in the game as if they were their own Pokedex, despite the fact that I almost never use them.

*After beating the Elite Four and obtaining the National Pokedex, I check Professor (insert name here)'s PC with every new capture to see if the message changes.

*In every version of the game to date, I have named my character "ASH".  Since Leaf Green/Fire Red, I have started putting numbers after their names so I can tell who was which trainer.  I'm up to ASH18.

*In every version of the game to date, I have always named my rival "Gary".  He never gets numbers after his name, he's always Gary.  Female Rivals are always Misty if applicable.

*I complete every single In Game Trade in every version, even if I am getting a common or pointless Pokémon out of it.

And that's it for me for now...  It's all I can think of.  Anybody else have silly little Rituals when they play the games?

 

[Luminous Warrior]

1. When I throw my pokeballs I stop moving, hold my breath, and don't blink, no matter what happens. Unless I'm at least 90% sure that the pokemon will be caught (like when I'm using a master ball).

2. I name all of the pokemon I catch up until about the fourth badge, because by then I start running out of names. At which point I name the pokemon that I use the most.

3. I always name my rival and starter after family members.

4. I name my box after the type of pokemon in them. For dual-types, I use the type that seems the most applicable.

5. I also polish my badges everyday.

6. I also complete every single In Game Trade, even if it's pointless.

 

[reika999]

Look at these pokemons as monster hunter icons

 http://imgur.com/gallery/UddSx

 

[Xoltox]

Mega Charizard X or Y?

 

[Fomar0153]

Beat the elite 4 etc. Anyone want to battle or anything?


FC: 1805-2246-2058

 

[Lustermx]

I'm just BEFORE the elite 4! Haha.

I'll add you Fomar, my code is 2964-8611-0527 if you're interested.

I also hear something about a friend safari zone thing. The more friends you have registered, the more pokemon that appears or something like that. I NEED MORE FRIENDS

 

[wildwes]

 

[Choco-Elliot Wyvern]

Anyone want to add me? Lol I'm only at the 7th Gym now (catching all the pokemon takes a while...). Here's my code: 5000-1977-0269

 

[Fomar0153]

I'm just BEFORE the elite 4! Haha.


I'll add you Fomar, my code is 2964-8611-0527 if you're interested.


I also hear something about a friend safari zone thing. The more friends you have registered, the more pokemon that appears or something like that. I NEED MORE FRIENDS

Added, yes it's an evil invention but now my friend list has doubled.
Edit:


@Choco-Elliot Wyvern: added

 

[Lustermx]

Beat the elite 4 etc. Anyone want to battle or anything?

FC: 1085-2246-2058

Actually, I tried to add you, but it said the FC was incorrect

 

[Choco-Elliot Wyvern]

Yeah I just tried too, got the same error.