Pokemon Corner

[NPC]

I totes forgot! FC: 3625 - 9025 - 8582

 

[Nightbane]

There's an SD card that comes with a 3DS. I think you can choose whether to save your files onto the SD Card or onto the actual game cartridge but I don't recall seeing this prompt myself. I just did a quick a google search though, and it says that there should be an option on where you want to save the data.

Thanks, Mega Blaziken here i come!

 

[Seacliff]

Been breeding a bunch of Fennikens, do you know how hard it is to NOT get a male Fenniken.

I wondered traded most of them, but still have a couple left... never heard of a female-humanoid pokemon that is mostly male. >.>

 

[Seeaka]

All starters are male 87.5 % of the time, no idea why.

 

[Seacliff]

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but you would think all Pokemon besides 100% male or 100% female would be 50/50...

How on earth are Liligants NOT exticnt???

 

[hyde9318]

How on earth are Liligants NOT exticnt???

We dont talk about that.... 

 

[orochii]

How on earth are Liligants NOT exticnt???

Actually, Liligants have no problem. 100% females have no problem, they can breed with something else. Or Ditto.

Problem is with 100% males, since the resulting species is the mother's. Like Rufflet and Braviary (and Tauros "still" can't breed with Miltanks).

I wonder what did these Pokémons before Ditto appeared,

OZ

PD.: Also, anyone here backing the idea that Dittos are failed Mew clones? Jus'sayin'.

 

[Luminous Warrior]

I think that Ditto is the descendant of Mew. Like how chickens are descended from the T-rex.

 

[Seacliff]

PD.: Also, anyone here backing the idea that Dittos are failed Mew clones? Jus'sayin'.

I back it, considering the fact they have the same height, weight, are the only ones that can learn transform, AND the fact that ditto can only be found in cinnabar lab... it just makes too much sense.

Edit: Also, dittos can't breed with each other.

 

[Tai_MT]

I think dittos are simply sentient egg yolks.  They are born when people smash Pokémon eggs.

 

[Chaos Avian]

Still wondering why (2 pages back), people were using Torterra as a Special Attacker...

 

[Tai_MT]

Still wondering why (2 pages back), people were using Torterra as a Special Attacker...

Because it works?  You must be one of those "Stop Having Fun" guys.

EDIT:  Does anyone know if the whole "Trainer Card Changes" were implemented in these new games or not?  I rather enjoyed upgrading my trainer card by completing things in the last... what... 9 games?  However many it was?  I just wanted to know if it changes color or updates or anything when you do things like complete the Dex or beat the Elite Four.

 

[Seacliff]

Still wondering why (2 pages back), people were using Torterra as a Special Attacker...

Because it works?  You must be one of those "Stop Having Fun" guys.

But Torterra has a higher attack, you don't have to be a "Stop Having Fun" guy to look at the status page and see that.

 

[Tai_MT]

But Torterra has a higher attack, you don't have to be a "Stop Having Fun" guy to look at the status page and see that.

But you do to declare your way the only "reasonable" or "right" way to use your mons.  Does it really matter what is highest if you're not a "Stop Having Fun" guy?  No, it doesn't.  It only matters if you ARE one of those annoying people.

"How dare you use a mon in a way you want to use it instead of the universally accepted, bred, and trained way!  You're stupid and an idiot!  Why would you EVER do something like that!?"

My response:  "Because I liked the idea of it, I thought it was fun, and it worked in battles that I did it in."

Everyone else who has complained about it:  "But you're doing it wrong!!!"

And I just sit here and go, "Yep, I was right.  The 'Stop Having Fun' guys have shown up."

 

[Harmill]

Can we please stop throwing this "Stop Having Fun Guys" term around? I'd rather not be accused of being such a term simply for discussing Pokemon battles and mechanics in-depth...

If I was to look at a Pokemon's base stats - let's use Torterra as an example, and see that his ATK stat is 109 while his Sp. ATK stat is 75, I'm naturally going to want to use him as a physical attacker. You COULD use him as a Special Attacker if you really want to - the game's main story is easy enough that you can use a Pokemon in almost ANY way you want and still succeed. But that doesn't prevent others from raising an eyebrow when they hear someone sporting a Special Attack-based Torterra. It will naturally raise questions such as "Why?" People who ask "Why?" don't deserve to be instantly slapped the "Stop Having Fun Guys" title. It's not fair. They are asking a legitimate question. I haven't seen anyone claiming "their" way as the "only" way. If you find it fun to use a Pokemon in an odd and/or sub-optimal way, that is totally up to you but don't get all defensive the moment someone questions why you are choosing to do something in that ODD and/or sub-optimal way.

As I see it, this thread doesn't have any "Stop Having Fun guys" yet. And I'm really hoping that the anti-"Stop Having Fun Guys" don't become just as annoying as the group of people they hate...

 

[Tai_MT]

You see... it's really the fact that the question has to be asked at all.  "Why did you raise it that particular way instead of the super-optimal way everyone else does it?".  The only reason to ask such a question is if you're one of those kinds of players.

I don't fault people for wanting to spend all the time and effort in the world to make "super optimal Godmons", but I do not really appreciate that a chunk of those players would see any other form of play as wrong enough to ask why it was done in some "sub optimal" way.

I know how to raise an internet-competitive Pokémon.  I choose not to, because I think doing so is the most boring grindfest I've ever encountered.  I engage in battles with my friends who don't take the games so seriously and play them just for fun or to test their use of strategy in a fight instead of dedication to optimal stat grinds.

To also be clear, a person is not a "stop having fun" guy simply for enjoying all these optimization grinds and tactics and fights.  What makes a person one of those is the attitude that their way is really the only or even the best way to play the games.  The attitude that their way to play is better than anyone else's way of playing.

"Torterra has a higher Attack base stat than Special Attack, why would you even consider making it a Special Attacker?" kind of reeks of that mentality.  I'm sorry if it wasn't meant that way, but that's exactly what it sounds like.  It falls right in line with the whole "raise your mon this way, or it's wrong".

Look, if you guys want to run around and use your optimal builds on your mons, go right ahead.  I'm not going to stop you from doing that, nor tell you that it's the wrong way to play the games.  I am only going to use the phrase "Stop Having Fun Guys", when I am being told that the way I raise and use my mons is wrong, or suboptimal, and there are inferences made that I'm playing the game or raising my mons wrong.  If I want to raise a Golem with a high Special Attack, it shouldn't be a question of "Why?  His Attack is far superior!".  It should be a nod and smile with an understood condition that I am playing for fun and not competitively.  The way I raise my mons is often seen as silly to those who play as Competitively as possible.  That's kind of by design.

You see, I work 40 hour weeks.  I come home, have just enough time to cook supper and maybe play an hour or two of a game before bedtime.  This is, of course, not counting on if I have other chores to do around the house or other obligations to people I know in real life.  Basically, what that means is...  I have no time for Competitive Play.  As such, I decided that it's too much work and too time consuming for the limited time I have to actually play a game.  So, playing for fun became my only motivation for playing a video game.  I'll leave "being the very best, like no one ever was" to all the kids and such of the world who don't have such taxes on their time.  For me, with my limited time, "having fun" in Pokémon basically entails just trying new things, doing unexpected things, and using as many "NU" mons as possible.  Everyone else is exploring the other path of the Metagame, so I'll explore the path I will enjoy.  The path that is all about experimentation, no rules on builds, sub-optimal stats, and crazy movesets.  None of it is designed to withstand super EV trained mons, and I don't pretend it is.  What it's designed to do, is to make combat unique and enjoyable between the friends I have who take the same stance on gameplay that I do.

I built my Torterra to take advantage of the fact that most of its moves rely on Special Attack to even work.  Is that good or bad?  I don't know.  I know it works for me, and it doesn't work for competitive play.  Though, maybe if it was tweaked right, it may work in competitive play as well.  Who knows?  I know that most mons only have one or two builds in Competitive Play.  Is that because everyone has run every conceivable way to build a mon?  Or, it is because a few people figured out "optimal builds" and just distributed that information while everyone else is too afraid to do anything different with their parties or mons?  Again, I don't know for sure which of those it is.  I suspect it has more to do with option 2 than option 1, but without having played Competitively before, I have no way of knowing.  Does any of that make that way of playing wrong?  No.  It's exciting for those who play the games that way, and that's good enough for me.

For me, the pinnacle of excitement in Pokémon is playing the way I do.  Goofing off, exploring, experimenting, not worrying about EVs and Natures, and trying to do something interesting with my mons that most people don't see often.  To me, that's fun.  Today, I'll make a Special Attacker Torterra, tomorrow I'll make a Lightning Brawler Ditto, and maybe next week I'll breed a shiny Charmander just because I like the Black color of Charizard.  Who knows?

I'll play my way, you guys can play yours.  Just please, stop trying to tell me or even insinuate that I'm raising my mons wrong.  If I want to make a level 100 Metapod who only knows Harden, I should be free to do so without being told my way is "sub optimal" or "wrong".  Let me have my fun, you guys can have yours.

Besides, I get far more enjoyment out of Dex completion than I get out of the Battle Mechanics.  I like catching them all and seeing them all.  Someday, I will have a complete Dex.  Maybe this generation I'll get to do so.  I hope so, it would be fantastic to do it once in my life.

In any case, this is a fairly long and extensive post.  I'm sorry if I irritate, annoy, or offend anyone with it, but it was seriously starting to make my blood boil that people were telling me I was playing wrong because of how I raised my Torterra.  So, I'll just skip to more interesting news (or at least I think it's more interesting) and tell you all that I finally completed all of the Super Training stuff with my Braixen.  The worst one was that stupid one where if you get hit at all, it resets your score.  That one should have been last, holy crap.  But, I got the medal on every single one, I even got a Dusk Stone, a Sun Stone, and a Fire Stone out of it!  I kind of wish I had gotten a Ribbon on my Braixen for the hard work I put in.  Oh well, I guess.  Maybe there's one for maxing out the friendship on the Pokémon Amie section?  3 Hearts on that for Braixen!  Maybe I'll even get past Route 8 tonight and get to my second Gym.

Is it just me, or does this game world seem a LOT smaller than previous titles?

 

[NPC]

It only seems like that because there is only one extra postgame area, which gives little storyline attached. :\ 

But then there's Lumiose City. That place is giant. 

But I see what you mean...I can traverse almost all of Kalos with no repels only facing a few wild pokemon in just under twenty minutes on skates. Oh right, you can move really quickly with skates.

It's mostly a perception thing, and the big areas can easily be missed (like the huge mansion or the Lost Hotel)

I really am farming the Super Training for another Shiny Stone. I wanna complete my Central Dex.

On another note, have you guys experienced the interactive backgrounds during battles? Using Air Cutter to gain berries from a berry tree, using surf to get 'weather stones' in caves, using Rock Slide to get evolutionary stones from coarse rocks? I'm still experimenting...I think bulldoze may do something to the plateau, and there's a smooth rock which stumps me...I think there tall grass also...

Any ideas?

Serebii had that all covered. 

Reading more, @Tai: if you want the super training ribbon, a guy in a cafe gives it to you...I'm struggling to remember which one...same with Pokemon Ami.

 

[Fomar0153]

Back to Ditto he is clearly a failed mew clone!

 

[Tai_MT]

To me, it seems like the Routes themselves are just far shorter than they have been in previous games.  I mean, Route 7 was fairly long, but nowhere near as long as some of the other routes in previous titles (like say Route 20 in Kanto or Route 133 in Hoenn).  some of the other Routes also seem to be little more than 3 patches of grass and two trainers to fight.  It seems like just walking from one town to the next is a matter of mere seconds instead of half-minutes.  I'm not even sure I'd need Fly in this game yet.

I ran all the way (this is running, not using the skates) from Route 8 back to the first town I started in.  Not counting load times for screens, it took me only something like 30 seconds.

I don't know, the whole game just seems a lot smaller to me.  Even only half of Lumiose City didn't seem that large when I was there last.  I know I don't have access to the North section yet, but just the stuff they gave me wasn't a whole lot.  Sure, it's a bit bigger than most of the cities in previous titles...  It's just that it doesn't seem all that large to begin with.

Oh well, maybe once I get my second Gym Badge and begin moving forward in the storyline again.  Apparently, they want me to go collect a fossil from some cave on Route 9 before ever going through the second half of Route 8 to get to the town with a Gym.  I'm almost out of freakin' Pokeballs too.  There really needs to be a lot more trainers on these Routes to give me cash.  This is the first time in the series I've run out of cash before catching everything.  Somewhat frustrating...

 

[Chaos Avian]

@Tai_MT: I didn't mean to annoy you about you training your mons. I just was just asking, I wasn't questioning your methods or anything, for the record I don't have a single fully EV training Pokemon, even I find that tedious so if at most I just go with natures. So again I apologize if I ticked you off since I do know you have gotten the brunt of "Stop Having Fun Guys".

Back on the current topic I also agree that Kalos is quite a small region, the reason I racked up so many hours in my first playthrough is because there is a lot to do. Right now, I'm taking much more time with exploration this time round (I found a Heart Scale behind the Pokemon Center in the town next to Route 9). I agree about the money issues early on as well. Hence my Pokedex lacked in my first playthrough (spent my money on clothes instead of supplies, girls have SOO much more customization! >_<)

I feel more relaxed after doing my blind run. Sticking with a pure Gen 6 team is hard because we only got 69 new additions... Though 109 entries and only 1 badge? I like that, plus I took that EXP Share off, plus changed Shift to Set and I feels somewhat more challenging. Thinking of taking out my starter mon as well (chose Chespin, got Froakie through Wonder Trade :3)

P.S: I got Inkay! YYEESSSS!~<3