Question about Celianna's Tileset

[Valkyriet]

Reference links #1 and #2.

I know the terms of usage mention that the tiles can be used in VX and VX Ace only, but just to clarify, can they not be used in XP? True, it might not match the engine's style, but since edits are allowed, does it not mean that someone can edit the tiles so that they fit in XP - or would that be a violation of the terms?

Once again, this question is just for clarification purposes :3

 

[Esrever]

I may be speaking out of turn here. As such, please take anything I've said with a grain of salt until Celianna or another authoritative figure is able to clear things up further.

These forums seem to specifically be about the resource packs found and sold on the RPGMakerWeb.com site, forums, some of the listings on Celianna's site, and Steam as RPG Maker VX Ace DLC. I believe the resources you are referring to, as linked per Celianna's personal site, are not apart of these listings and as such don't follow the usual terms of use provided from those purchases. Resources made by Celianna (and others) are spoken about in seemingly more appropriate sections such as General Resources and RPG Maker VX Ace Resources.

All that said, there does seem to be some ambiguity with wording as to what is and is not allowed as requested by Celianna for their resources. If you view this thread or this one, you'll see the following.

Can be used:
Only in RPG Maker products. Meant for VX, but can be used in Ace as well!

So here we have the wording insinuating that these resources could indeed be used in RPG Maker XP without issue. The resources were linked in the VX/VX Ace resource section due to compatibility, but due to this, it does add slightly to the confusion.

Now we've seen the above quoted from the local forum threads. Here's what her website has to say on the matter.

Terms of usage:
Can only be used in RPG Maker VX and RPG Maker VX Ace, and in NO other game engine. Can not be redistributed or sold as-is. Can be edited however you want. Edits cannot be redistributed. Only for non-commercial usage.

So while the site, in wording, seems more restrictive in terms of which software is able to utilize the resources, it does explicitly state that the resources may be edited as you'd like (such as converting them for use in XP). With a combination of the two sourced terms of use, it would appear that you can in fact modify the resources and use them in your XP project, assuming you are abiding by all other stipulations set forward.

Take all of that as you may. I think you'd be in the clear, but it is always best to get clear confirmation from the respective owners of any materials you plan to use to save yourself from possible headaches in the future. Hopefully I've helped at least a little bit until someone more fitting can get back to you!

 

[Andar]

The requirement "for use in VX only" (which was later changed to VX or VXA due to a special licence from Enterbrain) was there because some of the tiles contained edits from VX, and you can only legally use VX edits if you own VX.


As a result you still need to own either VX or VXA to use them, even if you plan to use them in XP.


But if you own both makers, then you are officially allowed to mix and use the different RTP's.

 

[felsenstern]

Amazing, there are again commercial resources which are not listed on the RMW page... GRRR!!!

Thanks for the links Valkyriet!!! ;-)

 

[Valkyriet]

The requirement "for use in VX only" (which was later changed to VX or VXA due to a special licence from Enterbrain) was there because some of the tiles contained edits from VX, and you can only legally use VX edits if you own VX.

As a result you still need to own either VX or VXA to use them, even if you plan to use them in XP.

But if you own both makers, then you are officially allowed to mix and use the different RTP's.

Understood, sir! I have a follow-up question on this though. Does this apply to only Celianna's tilesets or to a lot of other tileset makers as well who use VX RTP edits (since you said "can only legally use VX edits if you own VX" )? :3

Edit : Personally, I'm only inquiring about non-commercial use.

 

[Kes]

@Valkyriet

It's all tilesets, wherever you find them and whoever makes them.  If they are made using edits of resources from a particular engine, then you have to own that engine to use them.

For example, if you want to use edits of XP resources (I do) then you have to own XP.

If you want to use edits of VX resources (I do) then you have to own VX

If you want to use edits of VXAce resources (I do) then you have to own Ace.

I can only use those XP and VX resources in Ace because I own all 3 engines.

 

[Esrever]

I was unaware that RTP edits were used in part of Celianna's tilesets. As ksjp17 has pointed out, any distributed RTP edits are to only be used by those who have the license to do so. As the RTP EULAs stipulate, resources from one product may be used in other products, but only in the case that you would have legal rights to do so by holding licenses to both products.

Source / Source

Note for using VX Ace RTP with other RPG MAKER productsThe materials included in RPG MAKER VX Ace RTP can be used with other RPG MAKER products from Enterbrainas long as you own both RPG MAKER VX Ace and other RPG MAKER products. For example, if you already ownRPG MAKER VX and you want to use any materials included in the VX Ace RTP with RPG MAKER VX, you need topurchase and own RPG MAKER VX Ace also.The above quote is from the RPG Maker VX Ace RTP, but it applies the same for all of the runtime distributions, only with each respective product name in place of Ace's. Further information may be found here.

Scenario 1: You've found VX RTP edits that you'd like to use in a VX Ace project. You'd need to ensure that you've standing licenses for both VX and VX Ace in order to be on stable legal ground.

Scenario 2: You've found VX Ace RTP edits that you'd like to convert over to XP workable formats for use in a project made with XP. You'd have to then hold standing licenses for both XP and VX Ace.

EDIT: Corrected spelling.

 

[Valkyriet]

Thanks for clarifying ksjp and Esrever! ^3^ There's still 5 hours left till the discount for VX Ace on Steam ends, so I suppose I'll make the most of it x3

Side-note : I didn't know about this, so I was almost using tiles from all over the web in my upcoming project. Even though it's a freebie, I'd like to think I avoided unnecessary hassle

 

[Celianna]

You can use my free resources in both VX and Ace without any problems, but you would need to own either VX or Ace to be able to use them in XP due to licensing rights. While a lot of the content is 100% made by me, I am still using edits of the VX RTP, so I am bound by their EULA.