RTP illegal on androids?

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  1. Cqualt

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    Hey there guys! Noob here, I read an article somewhere indicating that if you were to produce your commercial game via phones/androids etc that using a RTP (I assume is the default tilesets and graphics of rmmv) is illegal considering its no long er on Windows but on other engines.....

    Question: how do you combat this to produce for mobile games?

    Perhaps whole new different tileset? If so where to get?

    Is there something else to do to get it on mobile? Very curious thanks guys :) Screenshot_20190716-160851_Samsung Internet.jpg
     
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    The writer of that comment is either confused about terminology or ignorant.

    MV was specifically designed to allow you to port to Android. There is a whole section of this forum which helps people with queries about how to do that successfully.

    The restriction about RTP applies to the engine it is used in, not the platform it plays on. So you can only use RTP assets in an RPG Maker engine, not one which, for example, uses Unity, The writer makes one serious error when they write "[the license] does not allow you to use these resources on games that are not using the RPG Maker Windows engine". It is that word "Windows" which they have inserted which causes the confusion.

    If you look at the EULA, you will see the following statement
    Nothing there about the platform.
     
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    @Cqualt
    whoever wrote that piece of text has never understood the licencing rules.


    The only restriction that was ever given to the RTP is that it is to be used with the RPG.Maker engines only. And that you specifically can use it with whatever of those engines you want as long as you own both the licence of the engine where it cames from and the licence of the engine where it will be used with.

    However at the moment ONLY RMMV can export to mobiles. If you use that program you have no problems at all.
    In the past people have madeother players to try to get their work transferred to mobile. THOSE are illegal - not because the RTP is used on mobiles but because the RTP is used without an official engine it is licenced for.

    And that has nothing to do with restrictive licences either - you get what you pay for. You only paid for the licence to use the resources with the RPG-Maker engines, not to be allowed to use them anywhere. There have been cases in the past where RM-DLC was available for purchase with an unrestricted licence - those were about +50% more expensive than the regular RM-Only resources and are no longer sold because too few people are interested in them.
    But it was offered for several years, it just wasn't worth for Degica to continue to offer them due to low interest.

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    As this is not exclusively a question about commercial games, but would apply to all games, I am moving this to General Discussion.

     
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    That thread you're viewing seems to be for older makers (before MV) because it says that releasing to non-windows platforms is not officially supported.

    MV fully supports non-windows deployment, including android. And as explained by the people above, the RTP license is about what engine you used, not where you released it.
     
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    Thanks so much for the information guys clears up alot of things haha :) sorry picking the wrong category, trying to find the appropriate places to post certain things so much information helped alot
     
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    Technically RMMV doesnt use the seperate RTP mechanic anymore.
    The big Resource Pack in MV is still referred to as RTP, but its without the cool seperate download feature.
    Yes those MKXP stuff is from 2014 and it reads like it made RMXP Games playable on Linux Computers, nothing more. If that is even the case, could be also just missinformation.
     
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