So, uh, what's this RPG Maker Unite thing?

[Holder]

Very strange behaviour in my opinion. First postponing it a week before release and then - a month later - saying "Yeah, the release is in two days!

Well, I am very excited and will buy it on the first day. Although I think it will not be in perfect condition.

Personally, sounds like a we'll fix it later as the release was put off and changed so much.

 

[Andar]

I agree with @Holder , the first delay was obviously a tech-person overriding a marketing decision.
The second delay had no data but I assumed the same, and now it looks as if the marketing finally forced its way despite any possible problems remaining.

And don't forget that with MV and MZ it was similar in the way that they never bothered any international beta-testing. MV had a bug caused by the switch between dot and comma that is used by a lot of countries including germany, and all MV 1.0 crashed on any entering of any trait numbers due to Windows having switch to using 1,00 for the number one where english countries often use 1.00

Not to mention that the translation to German had a lot of bad word choices, they should have checked the Ace translation as a guideline if they never bothersd to ask a native German (for example "get location info" was basically translated as "get file path info", causing it to be not used in any way by new users until they discovered that it should have been translated as "get map location info".

 

[r66r]

I agree with @Holder , the first delay was obviously a tech-person overriding a marketing decision.
The second delay had no data but I assumed the same, and now it looks as if the marketing finally forced its way despite any possible problems remaining.

Due to recent updates on the official RMU website, I would bet on a postponement of the delivery to finish the online documentation of the product, more than a product problem itself.

Spoiler

Source: https://support.rpgmakerunite.com/hc/en-us

The good news is that the web manual is now well populated and gives a good idea of what the RMU will look like... even though it has been updated again in the last few hours (and will probably be updated again even after March 27).

On the dark side, according to the release plan on the Japanese version of the site, there is still work to be done until March 2024 to stabilize the solution. This is normal for a new product... but 1 year to stabilize it, it can seem long for known issues.

Edit: Sorry, I misread the japanese text. These are the new features planned for the next releases until March 2024... and there are many!

 

[Pvt.Noob]

On the dark side, according to the release plan on the Japanese version of the site, there is still work to be done until March 2024 to stabilize the solution. This is normal for a new product... but 1 year to stabilize it, it can seem long for known issues.

Edit: Sorry, I misread the japanese text. These are the new features planned for the next releases until March 2024... and there are many!

"Supports 8-way movement in normal movement - July 2023"
Oh, that is cool. I hope the character converter supports this too!

"Implement undo redo - July 2024"
Funny that such an essential feature is only coming in a year.

 

[123edc]

These are the new features planned for the next releases until March 2024... and there are many!

not so sure, if i'd call them features or if bugfix wouldn't be the more appropriate word for what they're writing there

Spoiler: ... just translated that with deepL

Fixed accidentally pressing the esc key while typing event 'text' from the editor causing it all to disappear July 2023 ... sounds pretty serious for the next 2 month, when text just disappears while typing in the editor xD

Improved readability of status HP, MP and TP figures Aug 2023 ... not so sure, if i'd call readable status a "feature" xD

Make memo field multi-line type Aug 2023 ... whatever that means

Waiting motion added to side-view graphics Sep 2023 ... okay, but haven't they said, that we can create any type of animation we'd want anyway *thinks*

Increased number of side-view target characters Sep 2023 ... ok feature number 1

Prompt for confirmation when 'saving tile groups', e.g. via dialog Sep 2023 ... "feature" xD

Remove exit button from toolbar Sep 2023 ... not realy a "feature"

Support for Ctrl + keyboard arrow keys for hit-ignore movement during test play Sep 2023 ... ok qol "feature" number 2 ... but doesn't realy flash me

Open C# Project can now be opened when Unite is started with a compile error October 2023 ... sounds more like another serious bugfix

so until october 2023 at least we're getting the
"devs wanted to finish it, but marketing guy said big no-no" program

Drawing buttons for map editing moved or added in the 'RPG Scene Map' tab Oct 2023

Hierarchy items 'Map List' or 'Map Settings' separated into separate tabs and placed larger at bottom left of editor Oct 2023 ... sounds more like a last minute change to me

Event action order cannot be reordered without copy-pasting, so that it can be deleted by right-clicking Oct 2023 ...

Difficult to aim and input numerical values with controller-only operation when executing processing commands for numerical input Nov 2023 ... another bug fix

Support for eight-way movement in normal movement Nov 2023 ... feature number 3
Space and Z keys to function as decision buttons Dec 2023 ... bugfix

Enabled pasting of copied event pages at any position Jan 2024 ... bugfix

Initial focus on save and load screens to last saved file Mar 2024

Improved long wait with black screen at start of game after build March 2024 ... bugfix

Undo/redo implemented Mar 2024


so, basically i see 3 real features in there ...
8 - directional movement, more side-view characters,
and ctrl + keyboard for testplay

 

[Silenity]

Aww **** son. Excited for Unite!

 

[Pvt.Noob]

It's really entertaining. How badly can you plan a release?

 

[bgillisp]

Right? Its like they took lessons from every indie dev on how NOT to release a game. Seriously.

Honestly all this flubbing has killed my interest in it. I hope they can turn it around, but for now I'll not be getting it.

 

[Trihan]

I'm going to start creating my own RM-style Unity package and see if I can release it quicker than GGG can.

 

[Silenity]

It's really entertaining. How badly can you plan a release?

BRO LMAO. At this point throw this bihh into the trash. It's bakin time.

 

[A_Higher_Plane]

What is going on? Why are there so many issues with this RM? Will it truly be a good release?

 

[123edc]

What is going on? Why are there so many issues with this RM? Will it truly be a good release?

in the first place, it looks like a bugged release xD

but that seems to go more to a realy, realy, realy unprofessional marketing champaign

 

[Andar]

most likely the distributors marketing people are pushing for a release to get the program sold (and their money from the sales) against the programmer's wishes and abilities.

wouldn't be the first time marketing people are only lookign for short-term money and not caring about long-term sales, but all the RM's are set to have at least two or three years of sales instead of the three months that are usual for most games.

 

[A_Higher_Plane]

most likely the distributors marketing people are pushing for a release to get the program sold (and their money from the sales) against the programmer's wishes and abilities.

wouldn't be the first time marketing people are only lookign for short-term money and not caring about long-term sales, but all the RM's are set to have at least two or three years of sales instead of the three months that are usual for most games.

What do you mean exactly by this? Why would these people do this?

 

[JohnDoeNews]

I really don't mind if this takes another year or two. This engine was announced way too quickly after the MZ release anyway.

Of course I'd love to see the new engine as much as any other member of this forum, but it would kinda worry me, if there was a new engine out every 2 years. Then even when I buy the engine on the day of release, it would be old news when I finally finish a game with it.

 

[AkiraKotatsuhime]

This is so incredibly painful yet funny to watch.

～炬燵あ

 

[A_Higher_Plane]

What's the problem with product registration functionality on the Unity Asset Store?

 

[123edc]

I really don't mind if this takes another year or two.

i wouldn't mind either, if it means we'd get a bugfree release ...
but what troubles me, are their constant delays ... 2022 -> end 2022 -> 2023 -> sometimes in the beginning of april -> postponed indeffinitly -> 2 weaks later: oh, and we'll release it in two days -> postponed indeffinitly xD

makes planning, on what engine to actually use kinda tedious ...

 

[A_Higher_Plane]

i wouldn't mind either, if it means we'd get a bugfree release ...
but what troubles me, are their constant delays ... 2022 -> end 2022 -> 2023 -> sometimes in the beginning of april -> postponed indeffinitly -> 2 weaks later: oh, and we'll release it in two days -> postponed indeffinitly xD

makes planning, on what engine to actually use kinda tedious ...

Yeah. How many times did this game engine get delayed so far?

 

[MushroomCake28]

What do you mean exactly by this? Why would these people do this?

It's actually quite common. Marketing people's job is to figure out how to best push out a product, while programmers is to make sure the product is functional, and both often clash.