So, uh, what's this RPG Maker Unite thing?

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@BreakerZero You need to stop trying to silence people for no reason. You aren't a mod. Let them decide what is and isn't acceptable to talk about here.

Damn.
As I said above, I have already deferred to the mods on the matter. I'm not trying to silence anyone or anything like that, it's just that Planned Parenthood is an organization that people get deeply political about which is why I filed the report on the matter for advisement. Also, as I added after the fact it's not directly related to RPG Maker Unite, despite the fact that it is relevant to Unity's charity definitions in relation to the new policy. But again, I added the caveat that the mods can and do have the right to say otherwise, and I'm not taking away from that.
 

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“Could be political” but y’know as long y’all don’t get political.

FYI, but there’s no need to signal in the thread that a report has been sent in. We definitely do appreciate them even if one thinks the issue is borderline.
 

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Their websites states, "University of Michigan Mott Children's is the only children's hospital in Michigan ranked nationally in all 10 specialties." I can't discern why they are "not a charity," which means prospective developers probably can't, either. What this signals is a huge vulnerability if you attempt to partner with anyone, ever, and release a charity bundle, and only later find out that run-of-the-mill fundraising causes are "not charities."
Also, setting aside certain controversies about Planned Parenthood aside, it's bizarre to label them a "political group." They are a non-profit that provides actual services and education. That would be like calling 7-11 a political group that promotes Doritos.
So, I find all of this deeply confusing and unsettling. I don't see how Unity could be viewed as a trustworthy partner by any dev or publisher. You could be on the hook for tends, hundreds of thousands of dollars for donating a game. This seems to make their promise not to charge charity projects a lie. There was no indication any sort of litmus test would apply. They didn't say "charities we like well enough," they said charities, and this odd behavior doesn't seem to provide any sort of reliable working definition of what that might be.
 

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I can't discern why they are "not a charity,"
It's a legal distinction.
In themselves, all hospitals are companies that work for their own profit - that they are selling medical care doesn't matter here.
An organisation paying for other people medical care without making a profit itself would count as a non-profit, but not the hospitals themselves unless they are specifically set up that way to never make any profit.

the hospital tried to keep costs down by accepting others to pay for their patients without that "middleman" organization that would be a true charity, but would also need to cover their operating costs. And in this specific case that decision makes them not applicable to be a charity in the legal definition themselves.
 

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An organisation paying for other people medical care without making a profit itself would count as a non-profit, but not the hospitals themselves unless they are specifically set up that way to never make any profit.
I understand what you're saying, but this hospital (and many others) are explicitly, legally labeled as non-profit.

Also, legally,
Nonprofit (also known as a not-for-profit or NFP) hospitals qualify as charities according to the IRS

I'm not looking into Planned Parenthood, but as far as the hospital goes, I don't see how they have a leg to stand on claiming it's a "political group" rather than a charity.

Of course, that presumes the original article is correctly quoting the correspondence, and that Unity was in fact including the hospital in that statement, not just Planned Parenthood.
 

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Well, PP is explicitly a non-profit corporation, and is significantly limited in what political activity it is allowed to engage in. So either they are deliberately mischaracterizing PP or they are, in fact, talking about the hospital.

Either way, letting them decide what is a "charity" is sailing your ship between the rocks. I wouldn't do it.
 

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Unity is just a mess right now.
 

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Personally, I love RPG maker unite so far.
 

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Looks like the Steam page was delisted?



It doesn't show up in searches anymore and has the big orange box saying it's no longer available on the store.


And the steamdb history shows it was a conscious decision and they submitted a request to retire the listing, which I imagine isn't a reversible thing.

Naturally this can mean a lot of things, so I'm not gonna instantly assume it's the end of Unite. It's possible a Steam release just wasn't feasible in the end due to the plugin nature of Unite rather than it being a standalone and they're focusing their efforts on it being on the asset store instead. Because as far as I can see it's still being sold there. Just interesting to see that the Steam thing didn't pan out.
 

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Looks like the Steam page was delisted?



It doesn't show up in searches anymore and has the big orange box saying it's no longer available on the store.


And the steamdb history shows it was a conscious decision and they submitted a request to retire the listing, which I imagine isn't a reversible thing.

Naturally this can mean a lot of things, so I'm not gonna instantly assume it's the end of Unite. It's possible a Steam release just wasn't feasible in the end due to the plugin nature of Unite rather than it being a standalone and they're focusing their efforts on it being on the asset store instead. Because as far as I can see it's still being sold there. Just interesting to see that the Steam thing didn't pan out.

Confirmed. It's still listed on Unity's store as of this morning.
 
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The bright side of all this is that the RPG Maker Unite assets and DLC will probably be re-packaged for sale as MV and MZ DLC to make up for potentially low sales numbers of the engine add-on.
 

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The bright side of all this is that the RPG Maker Unite assets and DLC will probably be re-packaged for sale as MV and MZ DLC to make up for potentially low sales numbers of the engine add-on.
If they did do that, I wouldn't be shocked if they screwed it up somehow.
 

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The bright side of all this is that the RPG Maker Unite assets and DLC will probably be re-packaged for sale as MV and MZ DLC to make up for potentially low sales numbers of the engine add-on.
This I think is doubtful because they didn't go through Komodo for Unite. It would most likely require a renegotiated publishing arrangement for this to happen. But then again, I'm not a lawyer so don't quote me on that.
 

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hat the RPG Maker Unite assets and DLC will probably be re-packaged for sale as MV and MZ DLC
from what I have seen of them that will not work due to the scale being completely different.

Yes, the PVGames resources in the shop prove that you can use resources in extremely larger scales - but that is not easy as the low number of games with them prove.

And pixel-based art is very difficult to resize without quality loss, so it's never a good idea to just resize them.
 

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This I think is doubtful because they didn't go through Komodo for Unite.
they don't have to,
the makers don't read source - from where you got your assets,
they read formats, and nobody can prevent them, from creating assets in format xyz ...
yes, they won't sell it via degica/komodo ... but they can sell it themselfs on steam or their unity page

also, many of the stuff already is in mv/mz format
[like the trinity or mealtime tilesets ... that already exist for mz ... or some of the character dlc, where they also included mz sprites into them]

stuff like music etc can be easily converted from wav to ogg [i think they did include both in their dlc's didn't they?], the maps are just premade paralax and the sideview dlc's are a totally different style, then anything else ...

even the "character generator" can be bought as standalone on steam already ...
 
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from what I have seen of them that will not work due to the scale being completely different.

Yes, the PVGames resources in the shop prove that you can use resources in extremely larger scales - but that is not easy as the low number of games with them prove.

And pixel-based art is very difficult to resize without quality loss, so it's never a good idea to just resize them.

There's a huge difference between downsizing and upsizing art assets. Upsizing is where most problems happen when resizing, but filters can mitigate quality loss to an extent. Downsizing, in the case of converting Unite assets to MV or MZ, typically won't have a major impact and is much easier to adjust than upsizing.
 

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RMU isn't out,
wrong, RM Unite is out and an absolute desaster.
It was such an desaster in the Unity store that the steam release was cancelled.


What you linked is an add-on and add-ons alwaqys require the base to run...
 

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