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What?! No topic about space?!
Whoa. I was used to see pictures like this one (Warning: HUGE picture), but man, that's an absolutelly gorgeous one.

I'm so happy to live in this century besides all the bad things.
 

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Space is so fascinating, if computers didn't have my heart I would pursue a career in astronomy or astrophysics. If you have a smartphone you might want to download the app

IFTTT, it automates certain functions on your phone and the default action is to change your wallpaper to NASA's photo of the day.
 

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Same, had I not pursued Game Design I probably would've studied hard to get into NASA to be an astronaut.

What better use of your short life than the greatest adventure mankind could ever undertake? *__*
 

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Watch out for Wheatley!  He is in Spaaaaaaaaaace!
 

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I always anted to be in NASA when I was a kid. Space is a huge empty space just waiting to be explored. 
 

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WHEN DO WE GET TO MEET ALIENS?

Or are we currently the most developed life form in our near galaxy so we have to go find them instead of the other way round?

Will we be able to live peacefully with a whole entire race? How will cultures and languages clash? How are we going to study our differences without having to cut one open?

This theory of how a donut-shaped planet would work is really cool! http://io9.com/what-would-the-earth-be-like-if-it-was-the-shape-of-a-d-1515700296

*blabber blabber blabber*
 

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WHEN DO WE GET TO MEET ALIENS?

Or are we currently the most developed life form in our near galaxy so we have to go find them instead of the other way round?

Will we be able to live peacefully with a whole entire race? How will cultures and languages clash? How are we going to study our differences without having to cut one open?

This theory of how a donut-shaped planet would work is really cool! http://io9.com/what-would-the-earth-be-like-if-it-was-the-shape-of-a-d-1515700296

*blabber blabber blabber*
  • When do we get to meet aliens?It happens all the time
  • Or are we currently the most developed life form in our near galaxy so we have to go find them instead of the other way round?I doubt it. There are over 100,000,000,000 stars in our galaxy alone.
  • [SIZE=13.63636302948px]Will we be able to live peacefully with a whole entire race?[/SIZE]No, we can't even live peacefully with each other. Despite how civilized we may seem compared to other animals, we have a long way to go before Earth is ready to enter relations with an extraterrestrial species.
  •  How will cultures and languages clash?Language barriers would most likely be broken within 1-2 years with the aid of current Earth technologies and the world's greatest linguists and codebreakers. I can't comment on culture.
  • How are we going to study our differences without having to cut one open?
  • Books, pictures, models, corpses, time spent in hospitals, DNA models, etc, etc  There are A LOT of options here :)
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]​​I've wondered if black holes are actually energy factories. If you had mastery in manipulation of gravity and quantum teleportation you could build a black hole around an energy factory that turns all the matter to energy and teleports it to where it is needed. You place the factory in the middle of a nebula or galaxy and let that thing go to work.....but I'm crazy xD[/SIZE]
 
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Lets turn this into an intelligent debate!

There are more Moons in the universe than there are Planets, by orders of magnitude!  Does this mean that when / if we ever find extra terrestrial life, will it be on an Earth Like Planet, or an Earth Like Moon?  I would put money on a Moon instead of a Planet!

Venus - My porridge is too hot!

Earth - Perfect!  Has Life

Mars - My porridge is too cold!  More data needed.

More on Mars: perhaps once had life!  But geologically, it is dead.  Earth is the only planet, (remember planet) in our solar system that has Tectonic Plates!  Tectonic Plates are a result of a core that remains hot enough to generate an electromagnetic field that protects us from Solar Wind, which would otherwise strip our planet of its atmosphere, like Mars.  Earths magnetic field and molten core could very well be a result of our moon having such a strong gravitational influence on our planet, but this is not limited to planets, but could happen on moons as well, like the moons of Jupiter with its tremendous gravity.  So one of Jupiter's 67 moons could easily have lunar tectonic activity, thus, an electromagnetic field (or even Jupiters) that shields it from Solar Winds, which is pretty much a life killer.  Jupiter also has a very strong electromagnetic field, so it does not actually need to come from the celestial body itself.

Mars by comparison has two puny moons.  Not large enough to have enough gravitation influence on the planet to cause tectonic activity or an electromagnetic field, like Earth.  Electromagnetic Field died, and Solar Wind stripped the planet of almost all of its atmosphere, and now it is (theoretically) it is a dead planet, but may have once supported life!

Conclusion - Electromagnetic Field that shields from solar winds will maintain an atmosphere and is an essencial ingredient for life, not just being in the Goldilocks Zone.

Debate.

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Also...

I hate the way that Uranus is pronounced.  I dont give a crap what the scientific community says, both "proper" ways of pronouncing Uranus is just disgusting.  Your-anus.  Duh.  Alternatively, Urine-Us.  Also disgusting.  Pee on me or poop on me, those are your two choices.  So I propose a new way of pronouncing it that is not disgusting.  You-Ran-Us.  Absolutely nothing disgusting there, and I think if enough people start pronouncing it in a different way, and screw the scientific communities way of pronouncing it, that it may eventually catch on and we can be rid off all the Star Trek jokes.  Such as why did Star Fleet take Toilet Paper to Uranus?  To get rid of "Kling-Ons"!  Yuck!

Debate that too.
 

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What would day and night on a moon be like?

How different would cultures be planets apart?
 

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@Heretic: i usually go with Oo-RAH-noose
 

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Lets turn this into an intelligent debate!

There are more Moons in the universe than there are Planets, by orders of magnitude!  Does this mean that when / if we ever find extra terrestrial life, will it be on an Earth Like Planet, or an Earth Like Moon?  I would put money on a Moon instead of a Planet!

Venus - My porridge is too hot!

Earth - Perfect!  Has Life

Mars - My porridge is too cold!  More data needed.

More on Mars: perhaps once had life!  But geologically, it is dead.  Earth is the only planet, (remember planet) in our solar system that has Tectonic Plates!  Tectonic Plates are a result of a core that remains hot enough to generate an electromagnetic field that protects us from Solar Wind, which would otherwise strip our planet of its atmosphere, like Mars.  Earths magnetic field and molten core could very well be a result of our moon having such a strong gravitational influence on our planet, but this is not limited to planets, but could happen on moons as well, like the moons of Jupiter with its tremendous gravity.  So one of Jupiter's 67 moons could easily have lunar tectonic activity, thus, an electromagnetic field (or even Jupiters) that shields it from Solar Winds, which is pretty much a life killer.  Jupiter also has a very strong electromagnetic field, so it does not actually need to come from the celestial body itself.

Mars by comparison has two puny moons.  Not large enough to have enough gravitation influence on the planet to cause tectonic activity or an electromagnetic field, like Earth.  Electromagnetic Field died, and Solar Wind stripped the planet of almost all of its atmosphere, and now it is (theoretically) it is a dead planet, but may have once supported life!

Conclusion - Electromagnetic Field that shields from solar winds will maintain an atmosphere and is an essencial ingredient for life, not just being in the Goldilocks Zone.

Debate.

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Also...

I hate the way that Uranus is pronounced.  I dont give a crap what the scientific community says, both "proper" ways of pronouncing Uranus is just disgusting.  Your-anus.  Duh.  Alternatively, Urine-Us.  Also disgusting.  Pee on me or poop on me, those are your two choices.  So I propose a new way of pronouncing it that is not disgusting.  You-Ran-Us.  Absolutely nothing disgusting there, and I think if enough people start pronouncing it in a different way, and screw the scientific communities way of pronouncing it, that it may eventually catch on and we can be rid off all the Star Trek jokes.  Such as why did Star Fleet take Toilet Paper to Uranus?  To get rid of "Kling-Ons"!  Yuck!

Debate that too.
Life on satellites or planets? I'm going to say there is a fairly even distribution of both, throughout the entire universe. Though there are a number of factors we are looking at when talking about inhabitable realms: an electromagnetic field, tectonic plates, a rotation speed that allows no side to get too hot or too cold(and to establish a circadian rhythm within the lifeforms), volcanic activity, composition of the atmosphere, natural resources, time, a satellite for tides, etc etc. A comment on magnetic fields.... check out this article on flux transfer events :D http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/

As for Uranus: It doesn't bother me, personally, since I grew up around Marines; I drop A LOT of F-bombs.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Uranus

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=anus

http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=urine

Meow? :3 Y-You m-mean like the Moon nya?
I heard it might be made out of cheese  BD

What would day and night on a moon be like?

How different would cultures be planets apart?
On most satellites, probably no different than night and day here on Earth. On OUR satellite it is a different story, as the same side is ALWAYS facing Earth and is the only satellite in the solar system with this anomaly.

Planets apart? I guess it would depend. Are we talking about the same species on different planets, or are we talking about two different species on their own, individual planets?

If it were the same species, I'm sure it would be no different than like having our different cultures like we do in different countries or continents.

If we are talking about two different species on different planets then I would assume they would have very different cultures.

One thing for sure about finding extraterrestrial life....if they follow the same sort of basic programming like all animals on Earth, they will like food, they will like sex, and they won't be afraid to protect themselves.
 
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On most satellites, probably no different than night and day here on Earth. On OUR satellite it is a different story, as the same side is ALWAYS facing Earth and is the only satellite in the solar system with this anomaly.

Planets apart? I guess it would depend. Are we talking about the same species on different planets, or are we talking about two different species on their own, individual planets?

If it were the same species, I'm sure it would be no different than like having our different cultures like we do in different countries or continents.

If we are talking about two different species on different planets then I would assume they would have very different cultures.

One thing for sure about finding extraterrestrial life....if they follow the same sort of basic programming like all animals on Earth, they will like food, they will like sex, and they won't be afraid to protect themselves.
Well, I just thought if let's say we lived on a moon of Uranus, wouldn't it get dark for a pretty long period when the moon revolves behind Uranus from the Sun? Like a solar eclipse with Uranus (lol)

I think, wouldn't it be pretty different? On one planets, there's some established "rules" on the planet, mainly because it's been like that since ages ago. Religions are one, for example, are like one of the things that didn't fade off since the olden times. And I don't even want to start on Chinese beliefs.

But like, these cultures were there for so long so people follow them (and everyone's under the same threat of nuclear warfare).

Imagine if the people who started civilisation on a new planet chose to make it entirely peaceful. Guns and violence were outright banned from the start. The study of science was the norm, over the Christian belief system, due to the ones colonizing being scientists. The lack of an initial currency would allow people to prepare something against corruption in the future, because they've seen it happen on Earth.

On the flipside, the first people that colonize that planet could also be power-hungry. Build a monarchy and rule with tyranny. What's the police gonna do? They're lightyears away. What's the people going to do? Riot? There's not enough of them. They could build a religion with themself as a god, and with enough centuries flowing past, it'll become the norm, ala North Korea on a planetwide scale.

It's kind of like a New Game+, isn't it?
 

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This all assumes that these moons may support life to begin with.  Who knows, maybe someday, if we can grow as a species beyond our petty differences, corruption, and never ending wars, maybe we will achieve the technological level to truly terraform distant lifeless worlds to support life!  The way things are going right now, I'm not sure we will actually make it.  Our corruption runs far too deep and the endless wars are exploited to benefit a few very powerful individuals at the expense of everyone else.

But lets run with it.  Lets say we colonize Mars.  Or Uranus (or a moon).  There will still be problems.  There will be whole new forms of violence.  Wars may be fought in space by robot piloted warships and leave the humans completely out of it.  Maybe.  Maybe we go the other way and strive to maintain peace throughout the universe.  All that happens is we exchange the set of complications that we have right now for the complications that will exist in the future.  Perhaps wars will be fought over Air?  Territory on Moons?  Maybe whole solar systems?  How far can we go before we fail as a species?
 

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I think colonization of any planet in our solar system would be a long and difficult process. Mars is the closest, and thus the most likely. And yes, they found water there, but is it enough to sustain a colony? Then there's the atmosphere issue. By bringing lots of plants, you can convert some of the atmosphere there into oxygen, but that would be a long, slow process, indeed. And power: you can utilize solar power, yes, but it would take a lot of it to maintain the equipment needed to keep a colony stable for an extended period.
 

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I think colonization of any planet in our solar system would be a long and difficult process. Mars is the closest, and thus the most likely. And yes, they found water there, but is it enough to sustain a colony? Then there's the atmosphere issue. By bringing lots of plants, you can convert some of the atmosphere there into oxygen, but that would be a long, slow process, indeed. And power: you can utilize solar power, yes, but it would take a lot of it to maintain the equipment needed to keep a colony stable for an extended period.
Im sure that many years ago, well before America was discovered by either the Vikings or Amerigo Vespucci that people believed there was no way to cross an infinite ocean with a limited supply of food and water that could be brought on board.  Yet, look where we are today.  One ball down, a hundred million billion to go.

Technology will advance.  We will be able to travel to space faster and cheaper than we can today.  And what we have tomorrow will also be obsoleted by what that next generation comes up with.  Maybe we will fold space and / or travel faster than light.  Maybe we will use quantum entanglement to get internet on the moon or teleport directly to Mars!  (or Uranus, since it is the butt of all my jokes in this thread)  Maybe we will even be able to set an achievable goal of leaving our solar system!

I want to say the sky is the limit, but we have already more than surpassed that limit.  We have split the atom, even though that saying no longer impresses anyone any more.  We have done some incredible ****, and it is only the tip of the iceberg.  I am almost starting to think that we really dont have any limits but the ones we impose on ourselves.  If we survive as a species, we can only imagine what we will achieve.

It was once said that any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguisable from magic to an uncivilized culture.  We are practically on the edge of being able to do magic.  How far can we go?  The moon?  Mars?  What logical step should be next?  Titan?  Extra Solar (outside our own solar system), Intergalactic?  How many galaxies will we ever be able to travel to?  What comes after that?  Extra dimensional?  Time travel?  Truly, how far can we go?  But more importantly, how far can YOU go?
 

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Bump (if this is allowed...)

Which will come first?

#1 - Human created synthetic Artifical Intelligence

#2 - Alien First Contact

#3 - Alien Artificial Intelligence

#4 - Other (explain)
 

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