[Suggestion] BGM Fade-in

[Ksi]

Hey, yo~


So, remember how in some of the older makers you could have the Background music fade in? Yeah, we seem to be missing that. It used to help a lot when it came to atmospheric sounds, to have the BMG fade out, have, say, an inn sound play, then have the BMG fade in again. It's not a huge deal, of course, but it did help make the sound design a bit more organic - you know, instead of having sounds and then sudden music at high volume blare out of no-where (instead of slowly fading in gently~)


Could we get that back, please?

 

[Jeysonmcfly]

I can't agree with this more. I mean, sure, I believe there are plugins out there that fix this, but the fact that it doesn't exist for some seemingly paltry reason inside the actual editor, is beyond my comprehension. I used to use the feature a lot when I (admittedly) used RPG Maker 2003. I was still really young at the time, and didn't know that that was illegal. But atmosphere is what I'm all about. The ability to fade in BGMs and BGSs is something I sorely miss.

 

[Makio-Kuta]

I agree on this. I mean, it's possible to do it by cuing the BGM in at different volumes with waits in between but that is tedious as heck (and also a real pain when working with scenes that already have waits used to time other things.) I always found it odd that we get 'fade out' and not 'fade in.'

 

[Jomarcenter]

True we should have this.

 

[Ghost of Christmas Kloe]

Yeah! We should have this! 


I think it'd make everything seem smoother and better and keep everything flowing.

 

[gilgamar]

Would a BGM fade-in plugin suffice or does this really need to be a part of the editor? Let me know because I could probably write a plugin for this.

 

[Diretooth]

I'd love that either way.

 

[NeoPGX]

Would a BGM fade-in plugin suffice or does this really need to be a part of the editor? Let me know because I could probably write a plugin for this.

Personally I would prefer it just be an integral part of MV.

 

[Archeia]

I'll look into it

 

[Heretic86]

I'll add to this a little bit.


Instead of just "Fade In", adding to a "Fade Out" timer, I believe it should be "Fade Audio To...", thus allowing changing of volume of music / sound / pitch over time.  Thus, you can start off with any volume and "Fade Audio To..." a given volume over a given time, which would both include the original request, and expand upon the sound functionality without adding too many buttons.  Thus, you can start off a BGM at 0 Volume and slowly change the volume / pitch of that Audio over a specified duration.  Need to allow for 0 Frames as well.  I believe gradual changing of the Pitch is also important as it can become exceptionally atmospheric.  When Doom 3 first came out, people were impressed by the graphics, but the truly amazing stuff happened on the other half of gameplay, which is sound.  Doom 3's "Sound Shader" programming was critical to creating the atmosphere, not just dynamic lighting and shadows.  Sound is the often forgotten "other half" of a game, and too often neglected.


I believe this should include all sound sources, not just BGM, so the screen can darken as a rainstorm starts, or lighten and gradually decrease the sound.


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Outside of that, I always hoped we might get something like a "Sound Emitter" type of Event...

 

[gilgamar]

@Heretic86 This would be really cool. I had a map with a waterfall and it was a pain in the ass to adjust the bgs as the player approached/walked away from the falls. It would be even more cool if we could have bgs source audio in events that automatically apply a similar effect with a variable to tune the fade-in/out intensity.

 

[orlando]

removed

 

[Victor Sant]

BTW. fadeIn is already available on the code, It just don't have an event command for that. But a script call with 'AudioManager.fadeInBgm(time)' do the trick (the time is in seconds, not in frames)

 

[NeoPGX]

BTW. fadeIn is already available on the code, It just don't have an event command for that. But a script call with 'AudioManager.fadeInBgm(time)' do the trick (the time is in seconds, not in frames)

Then adding an event command sounds like it wouldn't take very long to do at all given that it is already in the code. 

 

[Jomarcenter]

true... But is there a reasons why it was hidden in the software code in the first place. or it wad added to a recent version but the editor didn't get updated to add that?

 

[Victor Sant]

true... But is there a reasons why it was hidden in the software code in the first place. or it wad added to a recent version but the editor didn't get updated to add that?

It was always there, it's used on the Replay Bgm command (when the bgm restart, it restart with a fade in). The jap devs/ojima just didn't add a event command for it because of reasons (probably for the same reason they didn't add other requested event options, if they belive something is not going to be useful, they don't add, even if the customers feedback says otherwise)

 

[Diretooth]

How would ' AudioManager.fadeInBgm(time)' be used? How would you be able to specify a song? Is there a BGS variant? An ME variant?

 

[Victor Sant]

You don't specity a song, just call it, and it will fade in the current song being played.

 

[Diretooth]

So, what, I'd have to play the song at zero volume and then use the script call?


EDIT: I did it, but it crackles. At the very least, an integrated version in the event window that removes the crackling.

 

[Archeia]

Just an update about this feature:

• It is approved! I will move this to Approved Feature Subboards once we implemented it in the editor.
• But we'll be adding it we fix a lot of bugs. Please consider helping us.