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Hi everyone and welcome to my post.
Before talking about what I came to look for, I come first of all to seek help (because I have been starting for a while), maybe for some, simple things (in my opinion who are). I am French and excuse me, but I have to go through a translator.

I don't know if you're like me, but I would like to put things in place before I can tackle the games directly. That is to say, to have a visual that suits me then go on the story.

Basically, the character sprites are how to say... CRUSH! They look like characters from Japanese chibi cartoons, which absolutely does not correspond to the atmosphere I want to put in my "game" (I don't really want to create a game, for those who are curious, come see me in PV).

That's why I found different posts, where people share their creations. It's good, it's cool, it really makes you want. Except that, um, how to say, I come across a "bone" if you know what I mean.

I saw several options if I'm not mistaken. the first would be to take the sprit of the character in a 3 x 4 box, cut off the head (have the poor one) and stretch the body (don't ask me the size, because I don't even know how many pixels it takes stretched). Me personally, I think that if I do it this way, the result will be with ultra slobbery textures and completely blurry. So it's ugly and long to do. Anyway, unless there is another method for this example. source: https://zenn.dev/tonbi/articles/6054d1eff8520f

Second, I found available software called TAB 0.9x unofficial. It's even cooler than going through a drawing software, except that it's not complete and I don't know how to complete this list, if someone would know how to do it and help me add other clothes , he would be warmly welcome.

Then comes the third stage of my research. When I type on Google "tall sprit body" I therefore fall on this forum and registered a few minutes ago. And I see character sprites that I'm going to call "naked". His naked characters are with different layouts, we can see in this example characters kissing https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.waywardmartiangames.com%2Frpgsprites%2FWayward-Poses-HandHolding.png&hash=ea1a6e3752389cb4c8ac8aa91665d108 source: https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/inde...s-tall-sprites-new-base-february-2022.135139/ When I see that, I tell myself that the possibilities of creation, of adding emotions to my "game" will be enriched. Except, "HOW WE USE IT" It's a real Chinese puzzle (without being racist) to find super clear answers without the answer being: you can't do that with a generator, you all have to create by yourself! Personally, I don't think everyone who shares content for RPG Maker is knowledgeable about drawing, especially pixel art. So I guess there must be a cheat, bare sprit base + clothing pack (and/or with a generator). In addition in this forum we can see the animation, the rendering. I want. https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.waywardmartiangames.com%2Frpgsprites%2FElfkisserTest-01.gif&hash=b6a8fa16a61f8151b6691cfc6b0c9820 In this example we see two elves, which doesn't interest me at all, that's why I want to know how to create this myself.

Afterwards, I don't want to be mean here and with anyone, nor be unpleasant, nor anything else, if you come to answer me, learn to draw, go photoshop, or other "stupidity" of this kind, I don't think that's really the help I'm looking for, but maybe I'm wrong too. It's possible that I really need a drawing tool and know how to go about it, that's why, for me, it would be really necessary, to sit down with someone who really knows , who can show me how to do it (via discord for example in video sharing) so that I can understand the steps. Afterwards, of course, we can always become friends afterwards and exchange our ideas and knowledge while staying in touch, in any case, that's the idea that I had when I came to "crie" for help. here.

I'm sorry for this writing pad but it seems necessary to make you understand clearly what I came here looking for.
I thank you all for the attention paid to my request, I hope to make a lot of nice friends with whom I could stay in touch for a long time.

 

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If the original person that posted the sprite didn't post any clothing to match up with the bases then there is no real easy way to answer that except that you would need to make them yourself or commission someone to do it for you (or hope someone will make them for free for you). The bases that creators make and share are just that, bases that others can use as a template for their own work.
You can make the clothing or sprites in just about any paint program, I think the most common one is Aseprite which you can also get on Steam. And there are tons of "how to pixel art" tutorials out there on the web. Hope that helps mate!
 
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I don't understand the question. You have a huge posts and I understand you look for tall sprites and think the ones you find and the methods you've been told are not what you want... Then what do you want? Can you say that in just a few lines?

Those templates you find, are made to be dressed up in photoshop, gimp or another editor. You say you think that is a stupid answer, but that is the answer on how to use those graphics.

Pixel art is not something you just google and then do. It is something you learn over time. It takes practice to make pretty things.

(Also I think it is really weird that the very first post you ever make here, includes things like: "Don't reply with stupidity like this and that." That really doesn't invite to be helpful. You might think it is stupid, but it is the accurate answer on the question how to use the templates.)
 

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Thanks for the quick response, but I already know that. I don't want to be unpleasant, but this kind of answer comes out of my eyes, I want to vomit and take my computer and throw it out the window, be violent, and insult everyone. Why am I getting angry you will tell me, because I find that it doesn't help me, all simply because I don't already know how to draw on a white sheet with a mouse... anyway, I try stay cool and breathe without getting upset, but it's too hard when you get the answer, learn to draw, be PAID an artist! I am aware that some elements are paid for, buying a PACK on Steam does not bother me at all, buying a large generator (complete would be ideal). I think I just found a plugin that does the job on its own, I'm willing to pay for it, except that it's in Japanese and in Yen, heuuu, it's getting complicated to pay outside of euros for me, (why they are not like everyone else and offered on steam... in short, it's also another big problem). On the other hand, I don't blame you for your answer even if it annoys me ^^
 

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Ummm ... WOW.
I thought i was pretty nice in my response, pleasant even. ok... well... just a heads up... the answer you will get about this type of thing will sometimes or, more often than not, always be... not what you want. There are a lot more of the other type of person in the community that will tell you in no uncertain terms to shove off and figure it out on your own, because that's what has been said to them over and over before they learned it on their own. This is a hobby for most. If someone choses to share their work, they are not obligated to give accessories for their work especially if its given for free. Another point is that most members are busy with real life stuff to (work family etc.) so yeah they may share something awesome with intentions of expanding it in the future, but life happens. Going into this industry (indie game making) , at any level or any endgame in mind, with the attitude that if you cant have the answers that pacify you then you just keep beating the dead horse another way, isn't the way. That is going to get you a cursory glance at most before someone that might have been willing to jump in just scrolls on to the next post. I'm in no way saying to act like honey, i am saying that if you have gotten this response from more than one source already, then maybe that is the answer. I don't know where else you may have asked this, I know you said that you have discord... in which case I'm sorry because lots of people on the servers are mean, but if you found even one person that was nice to enough to not say "Get bent" then count yourself lucky. Cause really thanks... i was being nice... and your response stating you wanted to "vomit" at my 2 cents of my time to try to be helpful... well yeah ... rude.
 

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Excuse me mate, I understand your answer. The only thing that really annoys me is your people, like you, who tell me to fend for myself, so what's the use of a forum, in short, I have absolutely nothing against you and I thank you for answering me . I'm not against paying someone, quite the contrary, but the help I'm looking for isn't a job done, I want to learn how to do it. When you tell me learn by yourself, but how am I supposed to learn to draw alone? Oo, this answer makes no sense, admit it, it does not make progress. The real answer, in my opinion, is to see a knowledgeable person to learn from him (against payment if necessary). Afterwards, don't forget that I go through a translator, so maybe we don't understand this 100%.
I'm trying to understand this for what I'm looking for, but it's in Japanese so it's too complicated, even if I try to contact the person to find out how to buy and use their plugin.
So I'm right to say that ready-made things exist. And by the way, tell me what you think. https://booth.pm/ja/items/1650606
 

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The real answer, in my opinion, is to see a knowledgeable person to learn from him (against payment if necessary). Afterwards, don't forget that I go through a translator, so maybe we don't understand this 100%.
That's why I mentioned... suggested..... to watch tutorials. You can find step by step videos on just about ANYTHING on YouTube anymore. That you can watch at your leisure. You wouldn't have to depend on another person, just load, play, rinse and repeat. There are so many beginner tutorials for pixel art. But no one can make you watch them. You have to do that yourself. Many people seem to be under the impression that the easiest way is to pay someone, when it isn't. Sure its the easiest way for me to get paid.... but even in the most common parable opted for teaching the people to fish instead of just handing them food. Tutorials are your best bet.
As for the plugin you linked, as far as i can see that will only "Stretch" your sprites, it wont actually make the new bases work in your game with the generator pieces available. So i think you have what that plugin actually does a bit confused.
and it has some known bugs it looks like.
 

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Really? That is your reply to someone who tries to help you? People actually take time and put afford in trying to help you, and you tell them they make you want to vomit. You even called the answers stupid even before any of us replied.

The only thing that really annoys me is your people, like you
Seriously? Do you really think it is okay to talk to people like that? Even to people why try to help you?

I want to learn how to do it.
Practice, lots and lots of practice. I don't say it to be mean, but that is how all of us learned it.

When you tell me learn by yourself, but how am I supposed to learn to draw alone?
Yes, by practicing over and over and over. Maybe you can follow tutorials or you can take a class. But then still you have to practice a lot. Like @AlphaOmega said, there is not an answer that magically gives you the ability to draw.

Afterwards, don't forget that I go through a translator, so maybe we don't understand this 100%.
That is no excuse to be so rude. The way you speak, was already rude before you translated it. Really... If you ask nicely, people will be so much more willing to help. If you are angry and rude like this, we will just let you figure everything out on your own.
 

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Really? That is your reply to someone who tries to help you? People actually take time and put afford in trying to help you, and you tell them they make you want to vomit. You even called the answers stupid even before any of us replied.


Seriously? Do you really think it is okay to talk to people like that? Even to people why try to help you?


Practice, lots and lots of practice. I don't say it to be mean, but that is how all of us learned it.


Yes, by practicing over and over and over. Maybe you can follow tutorials or you can take a class. But then still you have to practice a lot. Like @AlphaOmega said, there is not an answer that magically gives you the ability to draw.


That is no excuse to be so rude. The way you speak, was already rude before you translated it. Really... If you ask nicely, people will be so much more willing to help. If you are angry and rude like this, we will just let you figure everything out on your own.
Thank you @JohnDoeNews
 

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I was not unpleasant, I just warn that this kind of answer annoys me, to say that one is annoyed is impolite? I insulted no one, in short. It's up to you to interpret if I'm aggregative or not, but that's not the case at all, quite the contrary because if you read correctly, I use words like "I understand" or "I would like to learn ", so don't get me wrong. Maybe my so-called aggression is that I don't understand or don't want to understand going through drawing software, doing tedious things for a result that I'm not going to like. Do you understand the difference? If you think I'm being aggressive towards you, I apologize 65468516546846588441654% but that's absolutely not the case, believe me!
Currently I use, as I said in my first message, I use: RPG_Maker_MV_Extended_Generator but as it is not complete, I would like to know how to complete it with resourse available here or elsewhere (and I think it is really feasible).

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS.
 

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