Using kickstarter to kickstart your title/studio

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People often sniff out frauds. You need a good project & plan and a convincing thread before people decide to pledge to you.
 

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Very true

But if people know that money is safe once they invest it might help the smaller devs get more donations :/

At the end of the day I guess it comes down to how well you can pitch yourself and how interested people are in the product to begin with
 

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If I would ever use kickstarter I would most likely hire a professional salesman.

If you do not live in the UK and you use a UK-partner or something to receive the money but the money is still yours, then you might be facing tax fraud if you're not careful depending on your country.

In the end I never bothered with a kick-starter. There are too many pitfalls for me.
 

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Also remember that if you're not from US or England, you can't get money from Kickstarter. Sure you can start one but it says so in TOS, they will NOT give you the money, any money raised will be left for them.
 

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Fortunately for us in the UK, Kickstarter launched over here this year. I was waiting with abated breath for that! I suspect they'll move over to additional countries in time.
 

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Yeah, I also really hope they'll expand to the Euro-countries soon.
 

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http://www.pozible.com/ is a crowd-funding site from Australia that's open to a bunch of european countries. I've never pledged there, so I can't say I know too much about it, other than it might be the way to go instead of waiting for kickstarter to catch up.
 

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Also remember that if you're not from US or England, you can't get money from Kickstarter. Sure you can start one but it says so in TOS, they will NOT give you the money, any money raised will be left for them.
Any money raised will be left for them? Do you have any citations for such an extraordinary comment? I can't see how they could legally take the money from the pledgers in the way you've suggested.
 

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Any money raised will be left for them? Do you have any citations for such an extraordinary comment? I can't see how they could legally take the money from the pledgers in the way you've suggested.
It's in TOS, which you skipped over when you made the account. It's 100% legal as they NEVER ever state in anywhere in the site that you would receive the money outside of US or UK and you thinking otherwise is just your own misinformation, not their fault and it's your own fault for not having done enough research. (Or you'd find out that there's no way with their payment plan for them to even give the money to people outside said places) The reason why they don't give the money to people outside US or UK is mostly because of Amazon, not so much Kickstarter itself and that itself is mostly because there's no Amazon branch to connect Kickstarter to. Point is, you can raise 500606006$ but if you're anywhere else but US or UK, you will NOT be eglible to even a single cent.

http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creator%20questions#WhoIsEligToStarAKickProj
 
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When making a campaign, Kickstarter will ask your financial details at a certain point. If these are not recognized as US/Uk-based, you'll not be able to launch the campaign anyway.
 

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When making a campaign, Kickstarter will ask your financial details at a certain point. If these are not recognized as US/Uk-based, you'll not be able to launch the campaign anyway.
Ah, that must be a new thing. I remember that you were able to, just wouldn't be able to obtain the money and this had upset some folks. 
 

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Ah, that must be a new thing. I remember that you were able to, just wouldn't be able to obtain the money and this had upset some folks. 
No, it's not new. It has always been that way.
 

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It's in TOS, which you skipped over when you made the account. It's 100% legal as they NEVER ever state in anywhere in the site that you would receive the money outside of US or UK and you thinking otherwise is just your own misinformation, not their fault and it's your own fault for not having done enough research. (Or you'd find out that there's no way with their payment plan for them to even give the money to people outside said places) The reason why they don't give the money to people outside US or UK is mostly because of Amazon, not so much Kickstarter itself and that itself is mostly because there's no Amazon branch to connect Kickstarter to. Point is, you can raise 500606006$ but if you're anywhere else but US or UK, you will NOT be eglible to even a single cent.

http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creator%20questions#WhoIsEligToStarAKickProj
This is different from what you said. I asked for evidence of your claim that said that "any money raised will be left for them". However, in this post you've only talked about the eligibility of the campaign starter to get the money. I was not asking about this.

What you said was a completely false statement. Even if people were able to start campaigns outside of the accepted geographical areas at one point, there is absolutely no evidence that even suggests that "you can start one but it says so in TOS, they will NOT give you the money, any money raised will be left for them", which is a completely ridiculous claim.
 
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Really? So the people complaining were just complaining for no reason?

Ah, internets.
Most of the time yes, alot of people complain about things they misunderstood.  I highly doubt Kickstarter ever allowed you to create a project unless you were US/UK based in the first place (or should I say US only if depending how far back we're talking).  If you are so stuck on your belief however then go find an article or some kickstarter that this happened too in the past.  If what you say is true then there will be news about it as a shammy business practice or some sort.  There should be something, if not then I'm going to stick to people misunderstanding and complaining because of that.
 
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Getting a little off topic now guys.  How 'bout we stick to what Kickstarter does NOW, rather than what they may or may not have done in the past?
 

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I live in Australia and used Indiegogo myself. Found it pretty awesome. Sure Indiegogo doesn't have the same number of random pledgers as Kickstarter, but it's a pretty solid site itself.

I didn't reach my goal, but came pretty darn close. Made about $1,500. Which is all going towards graphics. I think it's silly to ask for people to fund your development time. Unless your game is the next big thing I don't think you'll be finding people willing to donate that much.
 

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I live in Australia and used Indiegogo myself. Found it pretty awesome. Sure Indiegogo doesn't have the same number of random pledgers as Kickstarter, but it's a pretty solid site itself.

I didn't reach my goal, but came pretty darn close. Made about $1,500. Which is all going towards graphics. I think it's silly to ask for people to fund your development time. Unless your game is the next big thing I don't think you'll be finding people willing to donate that much.
If you asked for over $1500 to make a rpg maker game then THAT"S why it didnt get funded.... RPG maker games have been around for awhile, people know about how much it takes to make them so they not gonna pay that unless you have a lot of custom work ALREADY done. You have to look at other successful projects and see hows yours stands with it.
 

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You can't make assumptions like that.  Just because YOU know how much it takes to make them (which isn't really true anyway, because not every game or every developer is the same) and YOU wouldn't fund it, doesn't mean "PEOPLE" are the same.  There are MANY reasons why a project might or might not reach its funding goal.  It's incredibly unlikely that you can narrow it down to just one thing - especially when you haven't even checked it out to see what it's like.
 
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