What was a Sword Art Online fna game, Now a fair use debate.

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Hey, I'm looking for a team to develop sword art online, Since I'm a newbie, I'd like to see if anyone would help, I'm looking for sprites, I found some from RPG Maker VX, Aaannd.. I have no idea how to resize them, (Bruh, Im a noob.) SO Uhmm.. If someone could resize these.. that would be nice.


Current team:


Leader (I guess..?): Donald Trump.


Developers: None ;-;


Testers: None..


So.. Yeah..


Sprites:


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1x63omgl0tf01xq/AACVpL3P6nWeTOlaYRToDVF9a?dl=0
 
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I've made SAO sprites for MV, but yeah.. don't wanna really give them out for free.


If you resize those Ace sprites, and use it on MV, trust me it will look horrible.
 

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I'm not sure RPG Maker is right for Sword Art Online but I'd like to see where you go with this. I don't have MV yet, so I can't help on the development front, but I could be a tester. Anyway it's up to you :)
 

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I'm not sure RPG Maker is right for Sword Art Online but I'd like to see where you go with this. I don't have MV yet, so I can't help on the development front, but I could be a tester. Anyway it's up to you :)
It's perfectly fine with RPG Maker :)  I've made one myself(In my signature)


So there's nothing wrong with it, keep going for it @Donald Trump!
 

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It's perfectly fine with RPG Maker :)  I've made one myself(In my signature)


So there's nothing wrong with it, keep going for it @Donald Trump!
Yeah but... an exact recreation of SAO in RPG Maker? I just think it'll be pretty hard to pull off. But as I said, I wanna see where this goes :)
 
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I've made SAO sprites for MV, but yeah.. don't wanna really give them out for free.


If you resize those Ace sprites, and use it on MV, trust me it will look horrible.
Hmm..


Well, Is there anyway I can preview them?


Put a watermark over them if you want.
 

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I'd be willing to develop and playtest for an SAO project. I can also provide information about the series and basically talk about SAO stuff.


Basically, i'm willing to lend my skills. :)
 

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Here you go :)


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Oh yeah, like Jackus, I can also help with any information about SAO stuff (we had a contest to see who was more knowledgeable lol).
 

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Aren't SAO graphics copyrighted? ...
 

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Aren't SAO graphics copyrighted? ...
I think as long as he gives credit, uses as little of the source material as possible and doesn't make any money off it, it qualifies as fair use.
 
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I think as long as he gives credit, uses as little of the source material as possible and doesn't make any money off it, it qualifies as fair use.
Making an entire game under the same name with the same characters and probably story doesn't fall under fair use though.
 

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Making an entire game under the same name with the same characters and probably story doesn't fall under fair use though.
First of all, this is a fan game so basically your argument is invalid. Besides, if you make the resources yourself, how does that fall to copyright? I made those sprites myself.


It's called a "FAN GAME", entirely to support the franchise and the producer of the series.
 
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First of all, this is a fan game so basically your argument is invalid. Besides, if you make the resources yourself, how does that fall to copyright? I made those sprites myself.
First of all, your remakes do fall under fair use, but you did not make them yourself. They are modelled after copyrighted characters. Besides that, the fact that it's a fan game does not make my argument invalid. The law clearly states that it's prohibited to use, alter, share, sell anything under copyright law. The creator's of SAO will not come after you for a few MV remakes of characters, but if someone releases a full fangame that uses characters, music and whatnot... Believe me, they will oblige to take it down.
 
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Really now? It's clearly a non-profit game man.


Tell that to all the developers in the link below that what they're doing is prohibited.


http://gamejolt.com/search?q=sword%20art%20online


Then come back and say that again.


Oblige right?


[EDIT]


Ahh whatever, don't wanna argue anymore, peace man. Mendoksai...
 
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If making a fan-game does not fall under fair use, tell that to every anime abridged channel on YouTube. Because they're 'infringing' (they aren't really...) more than people who make fan games, as they're using more of the source material.
 
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If making a fan-game does not fall under fair use, tell that to every anime abridged channel on YouTube. Because they're 'infringing' (they aren't really...) more than people who make fan games, as they're using more of the source material.
They probably are infringing. Just because it exists does not make it legal. In those cases, the content creator probably either a: Hasn't caught them yet, or b: have given them permission to use it or c: doesn't care. However, by law, if they find out about it and decide to file charges, you are immediately in the wrong, and fined a hefty fine.


Look up all the cases of what happened to any FF fan remakes. As soon as Square Enix got word of them, they sent them a C and D and ordered them to stop or else. King's Quest is another one, the fan made adventure game got a C and D when another company bough the IP, though they did eventually work out a deal to finish production legally. Still...the moral of the story is it's just best to not do it, and if you are, you are risking being sued every second you work on the project.
 
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If making a fan-game does not fall under fair use, tell that to every anime abridged channel on YouTube. Because they're 'infringing' (they aren't really...) more than people who make fan games, as they're using more of the source material.


Actually, there is precedent in US fair use law that protects parodies of the work used, such as Abridged Series(es?).
 

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