What's the deal with people not explaining anything

[Idontplaygames]

I cannot get a single custom script to do anything.because no matter what script I try to use RPG MAKER either crashes or it won't even launch. There is also nothing anywhere on this forum that gives me the answer to the question I'm asking, EVERY CURRENT PIECE OF INFORMATION that people claim to look at DOES NOT HELP ME IN THE SLIGHTEST The scripts crash RPG maker when used or they prevent it from being launched. So if you want to help me then make a video tutorial WITH NARRATION explaining EVERY SINGLE STEP FROM START TO FINISH on how to get a custom script ionto RPG maker VX Ace and then show a demonstration of the script being use by giving an example of what you would do with the script.

I'm here asking for a given a specific type of help:

I'm not asking what people's two bit opinion of me is

I don't care what anyone thinks of me

I don't care about people saying look anything up

I'm not going to listen to anyone's **** about do the reasearch yourself.

I dont' care how many people say they have things working

I don't care if people have no problems.

I dotn' care if someone found an answer in 5 min

I don't give a **** if everyone else had to do learn it a certain way

I don't care if people think this is rude

I don't care if people get paid to do this or not

I don't care if anyone says no one is entiled to provide anything.

I don't give a rats ass if people think doing things on my own makes me learn

Don't ask stupid questions like ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE USING RPG MAKER VX ACE or are you sure your adding the script in the correct place.

If the forum helps people then you don't tell anyone to leave the forum to go search for the answer that the forum is supposed to be providing, that means anyone that says GOOGLE it can go fuk themselves.

So if youcannot give a video reply with all the steps like I asked, then you're not doing anything to try to help me, and all you're doing is wasting my fricking time.

That's all there is to it.

 

[MyLordRobinson]

Scripts generally have instructions attached to them. If you have trouble understanding how to do these things, then it's not our responsibility or burden as a community to teach you how to read. Scripts work unless they aren't compatible with other scripts that switch around base data.

 

[Engr. Adiktuzmiko]

Most scripts have a how to use instructions... 

If you are using Yanfly scripts, I could make you a video, but seriously, it will only show me copying the script, then run the game... becoz that is simply how most of those scripts are used... plus Yanfly has a really nice set of instructions as to how his scripts are made in each of his pages...

and I agree with Solomon... it's not anyone's responsibility really... not even the responsibility of the one who created that script as long as he provided instructions on how to do it (Yanfly has quite a nice instructions list on his script pages)... not unless it was a commissioned script...

and bro, making a script is too much work as it is, and yet you act like someone really important and asks for step-by-step video tutorial? you must be a king.

Also, if you have a problem with scripts, at least list all of the scripts that you tried to use, because we cannot help you unless we know which script you are using...

 

[Shaz]

Alright, let's try this WITHOUT the attitude, shall we? It's not the way you ask for help, and it's not making people want to give it. And WE won't tolerate THAT.


Obviously scripts DO work, because MANY people are using them, and many people are spending their time making them. If they didn't work, every one of us is wasting our time.


It is more likely that you are not doing something correct when you install them.


With Ace, all custom scripts go below the slot marked Materials in the script list, and above Main. So let's start with that and walk through it with you to see where it's failing.


Can you open your scripts (F11 from the editor), scroll down to one of the scripts you've installed that is not working (that causes your game to crash), and take a screenshot of the whole script window and post it here? I'd like to see where your script sits in relation to Materials and Main. In fact, if you have too many custom scripts installed to see them all at once in that list, it'd be great if you could take a few screenshots - so we can also see how many scripts you're using, and which ones.


It's entirely possible SOME scripts do have errors and ARE causing the crash, but that would be a minority. It's also possible that if you're using several, or many scripts, that they're not compatible with each other, and THAT could be causing the crash.

 

[djDarkX]

...chill bro.

Most scripts, in fact most things for RM, I have found on my own using Google.  Now, if you have a request for a certain script that is not available, ask in the section most appropriate for script requests to the Maker you are using.

That being said, if someone is infact using a custom script that is not available because they made it themselves or paid for it or whatever and won't release it, you can't force them to show/give/tell you the script or explain it at all.  99% of scripts out there are pretty easy to understand as long as you read the instructions provided.  Yeah, sure, they can be hard to read sometimes, but just use a bit of common sense and you'll get them eventually.

As for crashing when using a script, follow the errors, go to script support here on the forums, copy/paste the script in a spoiler, explain your problem or provide the exact error and someone will usually go out of their way to help you.  I don't know where all this hostility came from, but it's not a very good start here on these forums.

Just relax.  No need to go nuclear.

 

[Shaz]

In fact, if you want, you can send me your scripts.rvdata2 file from your Data folder and I'll take a look through them myself to save you the trouble. I can let you know if I need anything else (if any of them require certain resources).


Also, when you GET a crash, it's helpful to post the exact error message you're getting - otherwise we have no idea of where to start in tracking it down.

 

[kerbonklin]

Along with what everyone else said,

The RPG Maker forum communities are extremely helpful and I rely on these people plus my own google searches and knowledge to figure out everything I need. This whole past week I spent trying to make just one animated battler using a modification of Kaduki Formatting. A WHOLE WEEK. (Most of my time spent playing MMOs) I had to blow through 5 different Animated Battler scripts, use about three Script Support threads for any issues I had that I couldn't solve for myself after awhile, and debug a bunch of incompatibility issues with the rest of my project. ALL TO MAKE THESE SLIME BATTLERS! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLuHsRUzshc

In the end with everyone's great help and my own mediocre smarts (lol), I successfully did it. I probably couldn't have done it without them, because the spritesheet formatting was such a pain to figure out on my own. The best thing is that since I now did this once, I can do it with every other enemy animation super easily.

If want some kind of explanation of "how did I do this?" it's basically taking the sprites from the MapleStory sprite database (BannedStory4 sprite database), resize/arrange them into specific row/frames using GIMP/Photoshop, and use them with an altered version of Rhyme's Animated Battlers. (which was the hardest part imo. The script doesn't even HAVE instructions, just a small demo that doesn't help too much. It's mainly for advanced users)

 

[Cozzer]

Isn't this a parody...?

 

[Xypher]

This is clearly the same guy

I'd suggest not entertaining him any further.

 

[Shaz]

If that's the same person, then perhaps he's realized the error of his ways over there and will be more constructive in allowing us to help him. If not, he just needs a little more rope

 

[Idontplaygames]

Don't come here with an attitude like that, abuse everybody, and then expect them to help you. If you want to stay on this forum, you need to tone it down. RIGHT NOW.

You say **** like this to me, then actually have the balls to tell me not to have an attitude...I don't think so pal.... You better get yourself straight and quit threatening me.

I asked for help and instead of getting it I'm not only met with clowns in this thread WHO DID EXACTLY WHAT I SAID NOT TO DO AND GOT NO HELP AT ALL, but I'm also now met with your BS. What are you 9 years dont come in here threatening me, then not expect to have anything said back to you. You want to say things to me then you will have things said back.

No one in this thread answered me at all and did worse **** tto me than I did considering I ddin't even do antyhing, and that's ok by you, but it's not ok for me to tell people to not cause problems You're a complete joke and i'm now adding you to my ignore list. and if you don't think i can do that, watch me. When you can learn that if you don't want people to have an attitude and can treat people fairly then don't give them a reason to have one. Now that you understand that I'm done with you..You're now on ignore.

BTW making false claims and lyin If the help iis so good, then where is my video tutorial I asked to be made to get the help I need..HUH..THIS COMMIUNITY IS A COMPLETE JOKE

Not one person has probvided me any help and has done nothing but waste my fuking time You're all nothing a bunch of hypocrites that have nothing better to do than to lie and make false claims.

Want to help THEN YOU WILL PROVIDE A VIDEO TUTORIAL OF EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED..IF THAT IS NOT GIVEN THEN NONE OF YOU HELP ANYONE DO ANYTHING.

Either put up or shut up

 

[Andar]

The login here obviously was made just for this post, as it shows only one post - none of the "other posts asking for help".

However, it's impossible to tell wether the reason for this was frustration or to make a parody - but since other people will read this also, I'll take it as a real problem post and not as a parody and give some explanation that will help others as well.

"Scripting" as defined by RM is not the same level as other games often call scripts. Scripting in RM is a full programming language, while the simplified game controls that several other engines call "scripts" are called "events" and "eventing" by the RM-Community.

As a result there are a lot of different "levels" of scripting - some scripts can simply be inserted by copy&paste and work without further handling, while others require the user to have some basic programming knowledge to even be able to start using them (Algebra's Quest journal is a good example, you have to program that code to contain your quest descriptions).

Most scripts fall somewhere between - they need some knowledge of using notetags or script calls to be used, but each and every script has it's own controls and knowledge level.

Without knowing what scripts you try to use, we can't help you - because the way to use them is different for each script. That's why people keep referring you to the comments at the top of the script's description to read how to use them. There are above 900 different scripts in the master script list alone, and I know that a lot more scripts exist that aren't linked there. Do you really believe that anyone would know the instructions on how to handle every script there?

Now to the second point:

NO one here on the forum is paid for the work or answering questions - no moderator, no admin, no one. Even the people who work for Degica get paid for other tasks and work, and do the forum in their free time - often instead of working on their own games or projects.

That is one of the reasons why there is the "no bump unless 72 hours have passed"-rule here: It simply takes a while until someone has the free time to research and help someone else. And it is simply basic curtesy to except that fact not only by waiting, but also by doing your own part as far as possible to reduce the workload for those helping you.

That means that you have to tell and link which scripts you have problems with, and tell us what you have done so far to solve the problem yourself.

If you do not tell us what you have done, we have to check through every step - you get help a lot faster if you give details in your posts, like where you copied the scripts to, which scripts those are, and screenshots of the error messages.

There have been cases where a single added or missing space created error messages - and those errors can usually only be found by screenshots, because the people typing the formula in the forums again corrected the space for the forum post without even realising it...

And if you think that's a waste of your time for you to read such texts, then why should I waste much more of my own time to make you a video tutorial?

 

[Shaz]

You say **** like this to me, then actually have the balls to tell me not to have an attitude...I don't think so pal.... You better get yourself straight and quit threatening me.

So it's okay for YOU to dish it out, but you can't take it back at even half the strength?

You're a complete joke and i'm now adding you to my ignore list. and if you don't think i can do that, watch me.

Mwahahaha - and how did you go with that? I already know you can't set mods and admins to ignored, as you would have discovered by now.

When you can learn that if you don't want people to have an attitude and can treat people fairly then don't give them a reason to have one.

See, you had the attitude BEFORE I spoke to you, so you can't blame me for "giving you a reason for the attitude"


Oh, and it was nice of you to edit your original post AFTER you got the warning and before your second tirade, to make it less offensive and to almost, almost seem like you weren't an arrogant, self-righteous nitwit (only because I don't swear), but, see, your original post was reported and we have the entire content for posterity ...

Spoiler

I cannot get a single custom script to do anything.because no matter what script I try to use RPG MAKER either crashes or it wont even launch. If people are saying they are using custom scripts THEN PROVE IT and provide instructions


I ALSO want to know why when anything like this is asked and all the details about what someone tireed to do in order to get it to work not only do people never ever give a straight answer, but also never bother reading what you said you did, and then proceed to tell you to do eveery single thing you just said you did, then act like they're helping you and don't like it when the person they pulled that crap with gives them an attitude.


So lets cut the crap ok.


I have searched GOOGLE with the following PHRASE " HOW DO YOU USE/ADD A CUNSTOM SCRIPT TO RPG MAKER IN ORDER TO DO WHAT PEOPLE SAYS IT DOES" and I have also typed in various versions of that phrase.. And the only thing that ever shows up is people disscussing how good the script is and nothijg relevant to what I searched for.


So That covers searching, so people have absolutely NO BUSINESS or reason to even post a reply like search it or figure it out or any of that other crap.


There is also nothing anywhere on this forum that gives me the answer to the question I'm asking, because GOOGLE ALREADY pulled up every topic on this site and many others that had the word SCRIPT in it and there isn't one script in here that people have explained what you have to do with it or shows a fuilly detailed completed tutorial on being able to do this.


So don't tell me to look around on the site or any place else for that matter..THERE IS NO INFORMATION AT ALL ABOUT what you do with a custom script...nothing so there is absolutely no reason for anyone to reply with an answer of well I had no problems or things like the script works or any of this other crap people post...YOU PROVIDE THE INSTRUCTIONS NOTHINIG ELSE..I don't care if people CLAIM they have this stuff working PEOPLE NEED TO START PROVING IT...Scripts that crash teh game or prevent the game from launching ARE NOT BEING USED NOR ARE PEOPLE EVEN USING THEM...


So this is what someone NEEDS TO DO.. AND THE OONLY TYPE OF REPLY THAT MEANS ANYTHING....Make a damn video showing from start to finish WITH NARRATION explaining every single step about what you're doing from showing where you get the script from all the way up to explaining exactly every little detail about how you get the script to even do anything nad actually USE it in RPG maker...The video also needs to contain someone hshowing them launching the game with the script they added (TO PROVE IT DOESN"T CRASH THE GAME AND OR THE GAME VAN BE LAUNCHED) and then give a very detailed example of them using the script.


If scripts truely worked as people claimed, then the game would not be crashing and or the game would launch...


So either provide fully detailed explcit instructions or I don't care about what anyone says because you're only in here to start problems...If you cannot or don't want to provide problems the don't bother making a reply at all. If you do then don't complain about how I'm talking to you... Simple concept


Now what's the deal, are people going to help me or just act stupid and start **** with me.

Just about everyone in this thread offered to help you in some way, as they also did on other forums when you took the same approach to asking for help but never actually answering anyone's questions or elaborating on specific problems. If you cannot follow instructions and at least provide what we ask in order to help you, then that's YOUR problem, NOT ours.


I must say, this is the best tanty I have seen in a LONG time!


And thank you for playing with us today. We hope you enjoyed yourself. It was fun - let's do it again sometime. Don't let the door hit you on the way out


Congratulations on being the member with possibly the shortest join-to-ban duration we've had on these forums (excluding the spammers, of course, but you were more entertaining)


Closed, with much enthusiasm