whats the difference between Sex and Porn in Games?

[Wavelength]

GTA had a "hot coffee" fiasco that turned the game from Mature to Adult Only by having exactly one explicit scene that you can't get to without hacking. It's precisely as silly as calling Team Fortress an RPG.

Heh, yes, that was a very weird one. My instinct is that the ESRB would take a do-over on that one if they could. Should every moddable game immediately become AO? Of course not.

The irony was also not lost on most of the general (gaming) public that the game involves glorification of murdering cops, mass civilian manslaughter, drug use, etc., etc., and only got bumped to the AO after a mildly explicit, consensual sex scene (that you have to hack the game to watch).

I might rewrite it in a way to make it more "exciting" for the reader while being mindful to lose nothing of why the scene is there in the first place. I'd do the same thing in a game (especially Visual Novel). Would doing this push it into "porn" territory?

It's a really good question. In my own mind, it would push it closer to pornographic territory (not necessarily to the point of "being a work of porn"). I think if the primary point of something (a moment, a scene, a whole work) of a work of art is to sexually excite the audience, that's pornographic. It's not a bad thing; it's just something that should be separated in an intelligent audience's mind from simple sexual content.

 

[Tuomo L]

Sex could be just showing like a butt or something all cutesy teasy. You could even censor the whole thing with covers on them. Your game would be okay with kissing and some other stuff like that like hand holding.

Porn is meant to arouse, it's usually more hardcore and more descriptive. Just don't show the goods in too much detail or hide stuff under blanket and it'll be all cutesy and non porny.

 

[JinyHanger]

Common words for both pornographic experiences: The real difference is between source and hardcore.
I mean, we're testing the content if you're definitely going to confirm in the sex action you're hardcore that apparently visible sexual organs (complete nudity) or scenes. On the other hand, if sex organs are hidden and the content is shown in a soft way, still unrecognizable, some sexual content, you are in Soto.

This is a difficult subject, due to the laws in the laws related to softcore and hardcore changes in each country. For example, there are different court rulings, which handle different types of satcos and hardcore elements; In some countries, it can be considered as hard as it is, as well.
The real problem is to determine the age of the pornographic content consumer: It is clear for most countries that only those content can be enjoyed by consumers who have a majority in relation to the laws of their homeland; On the other hand, Softcore's determination is even more difficult: For example, in Italy, I think that the softcore content of their harsh content can be useful from the age of 14 (maximum), but generally consumers start from 16 years old. It relies heavily on content, especially the most common experiences related to movies and movies, but the problem is solved by film distribution, which begins with consumers' own age.

In general, I agree that, regardless of source code and hardcore, what you are doing should be considered as general adults, only targeting their players, who can survive without any complicated PEGI or ESRB determination.

 

[Kes]

@Vukolos I have deleted your post. This site is PG13, and as such we do not allow such content. In future, please remember that minors read these threads.

[mod]Closing this.[/mod]

 

[Aesica]

Honestly, I think the difference between "a game with sex in it" and a "porn game" can be answered by selecting the best of these two options:

1. Does your game show (or vividly describe) sexual contact points/penetration between two or more characters? Or...
   
2. Does your game make sexual references and allusions without actually showing the act itself, or is the act obscured?

If you answered 1, it's a porn game and there's really no getting around that. If you answered 2, it's just a game with mature content. In the game I'm working on, there's hookers that you can't actually rent, used condoms in treasure boxes, and even a person in a bathroom complaining about how the inn management keeps patching up the glory holes. But it sits squarely in #2 because there isn't ever going to be any actual sex scenes depicted. (I just wanted my people to seem a bit more "real" than in typical RPG games)