I fail to see how it's relevant if it's a real woman with real agency or it's a fictionally non-existent woman that isn't real. Is it degrading to a non-existing woman, but not degrading to one that makes that choice herself? What if I invent a backstory or "in universe" reasons for my fictional characters to be dressing skimpy and as "Fan Service"? What is the difference? Or, is it only "a difference" because said fictional characters get to be idealized versions of males or females and get to be lusted after for brief moments, and real life "Fan Service" is those people choosing to be objects of lust for money or to boost their own egos? I'm afraid I don't see your point at all. You've yet to even justify your own dislike of Fan Service. You seem simply keen on trying to tell people it shouldn't exist at all. As for Sailor Moon... Yep, the Transformations in the Manga are just as much Fan Service. They don't start out all sparkly and naked, but it's a different kind of Fan Service to accentuate their impressively long and feminine legs and skinny waists. Even funnier is that it's written by a woman. Oh, and in the Manga, their skirts seem to be "flying up" a lot more in the transformation sequences than what we get in the anime. They also seem to be a few inches shorter. The thing about Heavy Metal... It's a movie. You should watch it sometime. The whole thing is music, psychedelic visual trips, and lots of Fan Service everywhere. Generally regarded as a cultural phenomenon and sometimes as literal Art. But, let's say we get rid of all Fan Service everywhere. You know, to cater to your sensibilities and tastes. Twilight is gone as a series. Magic Mike is gone. Anything you can see a man's bare chest is gone. All clothing that could be "skin tight" and shows off any amount of "sexual appeal". Swimsuits? Gone. Bikinis? Gone. Women who have naturally large chest sizes and can't find clothes to fit them? Now it's mandatory for them to get reductions so that they aren't showing it off. The outfit Batman wears? Gone. In all iterations of him. Even the ones that were "safe" from the original series. Harlequin Romance Novels? Gone. Risqué commercials? Gone. Superheroes? All gone. Sports video games? Gone. It's allllllllll Fan Service. While we're at it, we should also eliminate other things that people might find "sexy". Like say... feet... armpits... noses... Fat people... Just hit all the fetishes. My point is that Fan Service, in general, is okay. However, to remain "Fan Service" is needs to be either used in moderation... or whatever medium it is part of, that needs to be the whole point of that medium. If an entire game's point is the Fan Service, I'm fine with that. If Fan Service comes with every 4 hours of gameplay or something... I'm fine with that. If it's used as a plot point... I'm fine with that too. In general, the major backlash against Fan Service seems to be the basic attitude of, "Yes, I get it, they're hot. Can I go back to enjoying the rest of this now? Can we stop having everything interrupted just to remind me that said character is attractive?". Which, basically, means that the Fan Service is too much "in your face" and "misused". I can understand not wanting to partake in the overt Fan Service type games. It's not to everyone's tastes. Some people prefer subtlety... But, I don't understand not liking any Fan Service at all. I can't understand being unable to appreciate a fine specimen of the male or female body in any medium. It makes no sense to me.