@Marquise* Yup! It's true - the engine doesn't matter. A game with no effort put in is still going to suck. And there's still always going to be the elitist jerks that think you need to code from scratch to make anything worthwhile. Seriously, if they think the big boys don't use premade anything in their game creation, I'd hate to see them get hired on at a game studio and watch their whole world implode.
OMG! Ohhhhh no! not for a dyslexic like me. On the other hand, those imploders... they can really and sadly cost a company with their pomposity. They are usually the very first proud of their own coding and when asked to turn around a problem or solve it with more code, they are the first to tell others how unrealistic are their expectations rather than try to solve the problem.
There is a 2D animation software company like that in Montreal. In the past, we started toknow we had a problem with it having to use Photoshop on the side and then one day at the end of a camera move... hours to try to explain that a real camera don't use BEZIER in a EASE-OUT panoramic. (we had an elastic bounce on the cam like on a pneumatic superball) Guess what was their answer? Paraphrasing here "But it is bezier controlled, aren't you happy it is that smooth? It is beautiful. If you want you can use the handles!" Yes but nope! don't work! Even with the worsest pile up of keyframes on the cam to STICK the cam on path! %$^%$%^$%^$%^$#%$#$% (Just imagine dizzy cam on video games... but in a 2D cartoon!
How can you mess with a cam in a 2D cartoon? High tech bezier or not... FRAG this! Get me to your boss or come here tell me how to do our job!! XD LOL)
@kovakI am a photoshop user you'll hear me swear crap if you put me on Gimp maybe. Although, I have a less sensationalistic head than most of the population because I don't want everything yesterday with efforts I didn't putted on or money I don't have. So I kinda respect GIMP as a whole for the peoples unable to afford the platinum tool. But, seriously before I sprite from scratch... I kinda etch a sketch my chars on paper and folks following my monthly progress might had saw it. You could put in my hand a piece of coal and recycled paper and I would sprite you something better and faster than on computer... as long you can scan and resize it after and I can use my animation disk and light table.
@everyone else, take just what I typed to kovak and translate that to game. Not something that makes you physically sick but strengthen your patience and tolerance. An ape might learn to use an asset tool, almost even a RPG tool, but to get something good out of it we have to remember this is just a tool and we are WAY past the ape stage and we should think farther than just suck money from others first. We have to think of our limitations and use our strengths. (I would gladly use Unreal ed if I could just stop having an ape fit each and every time I block on a shadow or a polygon, a curve or a boolean, rather than just 2D it out and go on with my story! Sheesh! Nobody wanna see Marquise in a primate fit! It might be at the tenth of Marquise on a bed bug nest, but it is enough to call an emergency rage quit!) By having a formidable yet simple palette of tool, RPGMaker allows everyone to make a game. Except we rarely want to play with everyone! I knew an amazing movie poster artist who made his posters using merely Prismacolors... like the real wooden crayons. And he still does! We know when he don't on what he works and we miss the crayons. Except all color crayon haters just gets that stabbing pain in the chest when learning he is a non-tech guy and no one can do as well as he does! Folks... I know that RPGMaker is made so that even a kid can use it! Except, some folks have to stop acting like brats spitting in its direction. I suspect many RPGHaters doing that cannot even handle the standard quality they expect so much and would end up teaching how to do RPG to others rather than actually DO what they hope to preach without any good example! (And I know who are the best teachers, they are the ones praising the technique of folks who can do a good job over the simplest and most rudimentary tools instead of the snobbing from others using advanced tools that may fall in the garbage each 6 months! You can go to the grocery with a Peugeot or a monocycle, I'm not sure anyone wants to scratch their BMW limo there!)
