wind blown itme and tumbling itmes sprites

[Νύξ]

Someone please just close this topic and I'll start over with a new one.Its not worth it.

 

[mobychan]

itme?

do you mean item?

And what exactly do you want, there's a weather script allowing you to have leaves flowing around the screen (I think it is by Vlue...) or a Sprite configured like the chest (each direction/step looks a bit different giving the possibility to animate it?

For leaves (for example in a forest) I'd recommend that script from Vlue I mentioned ^^

 

[Νύξ]

Sigh~Ok.I can see its going to be one of "THOSE"topics.

Im looking for a sprite to emulate leaves,paper or sand if eather three can be managed that can sit still on the ground and be blown around on comand.Not a weather setup.And as for the tumbling itmes I fail to see were i went wrong in explaining but ill give it another go for your conveniance.I need a sprite for,oh lets say a box like those little crates in the vx tileset c,that falls or as i put it tumbles,and a sprite for the broken version caused by said fall the contents can be any of the basics seen in the tile set,these being fish corn and what i think are apples,preferably the apple ones.And the bucket requestt im pretty certain was eazy to get.All I wanted there was the vx bucket of watter seen in tile set c as a sprite of the bucket to tip over and spill.

If you can produce a link to were this waetherscript is id apreciate that too but it still dosent solve the request.

 

[mobychan]

no need to be like this Oo

moving leaves can be interpreted the way I did, and I just wanted to be sure.

Here's a leave sprite by Jude from RMN:

for the pile of leaves you want, you could try putting some together yourself ^^

But yeah, I guess this will be my last answer to you since you seem to consider my answers a bother...

 

[Levi]

@NYX

I've read a fair bit of your posts... and I'm surprised anyone bothers with them anymore. You always get frustrated, and act like every one is trying to ruin your thread.

The fact is, every Resource Request thread that you've made has been **** (including this one). And when someone comes to help, and requires more description (since you somehow manage to type chicken scratch) you get all frustrated and angry.

If you want help, be descriptive. Make your posts easy to read. Nobody here owes you any favors... nobody here owes you anything. If you want help, make it easy for people to help you... not difficult. Your threads tend to degenerate into ****storms... so why would anyone want to be kind enough to help you?

Mobychan chose to try and help you, and you were incredibly rude to her.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you... I can hardly see through all the condescension in your reply to Mobychan.

Just my two cents on the matter.

 

[Νύξ]

@mory

Thanks it looks good.is it set one for watter and one for land or one falling and the other landed in watter?Cant tell.Sorry i was tired and agitated at the time.Nothing ment by it.

@Levi w

Honistly your poast sort of counts as spam and im pretty certain that curseing is grounds for a report but im not crewl like that.Yes i get frustrated,because people ask me for detail and when i give detail nothing turns up.I say its going to be one of those poasts,the kind were i wind up hauling on detail after detail and dont wind up with results.In the case of moby i was not trying to be rude or snappy.All and all im just tired of the same stuff happening.i never said anyone owes me anything so you can drop that now.Hope you rant made you feel better and the mods dont peg you for it.They probably wont.

 

[Levi]

@Levi w

Honistly your poast sort of counts as spam and im pretty certain that curseing is grounds for a report but im not crewl like that.

I don't believe it is 'spam'. I've offered advise, and criticised your methods of requesting resources. I don't think that anyone here would disagree with what I said in that post. I mean to help you, not hurt you. And cursing is completely acceptable, as long as it is not in excess.

Yes i get frustrated,because people ask me for detail and when i give detail nothing turns up.I say its going to be one of those poasts,the kind were i wind up hauling on detail after detail and dont wind up with results.

People wouldn't have to ask for detail if your OPs were easily readable and descriptive enough. And regardless, you said it yourself... nobody owes you anything. So why get frustrated when you receive nothing, or when you must wait? There are no promises here, so why bother getting flustered? The internet 'tis a harsh mistress.

In the case of moby i was not trying to be rude or snappy.All and all im just tired of the same stuff happeningi.

I see. That is unfortunate. But nothing will change... you'll have to learn to deal with it. If you become insufferable you won't get your results any quicker.

Hope you rant made you feel better and the mods dont peg you for it.They probably wont.

I wasn't feeling bad in the first place. Just some constructive criticism.

Relating to your request:

To have something 'tumble' (I assume that infers movement across two tiles) you'd either require a large animation, broken into pieces and displayed via aligned events... or an animated parallax script. For the sand/paper/leaves blowing around on the ground... it'd be the same issue... unless you don't mind being limited to single tiles.

If you had an animated parallax script, and used it in the same manner as the Mulitple Fogs scrip in the "Realistic Rain" tutorial [http://forums.rpgmak...realistic-rain/] you could get a super neat effect. You could have a dense layer beneath the player (and have the ground set up as a bush, which would give the illusion of the sand blowing around the ankles/knees) and a less dense layer above. You could probably get a neat looking sand-storm!

Anyways, I haven't seen/heard of any resources like this, so I'm pretty sure it'll have to be custom made. Sorry I can't be of more help.

 

[Νύξ]

I don't believe it is 'spam'. I've offered advise, and criticised your methods of requesting resources. I don't think that anyone here would disagree with what I said in that post. I mean to help you, not hurt you. And cursing is completely acceptable, as long as it is not in excess.

People wouldn't have to ask for detail if your OPs were easily readable and descriptive enough. And regardless, you said it yourself... nobody owes you anything. So why get frustrated when you receive nothing, or when you must wait? There are no promises here, so why bother getting flustered? The internet 'tis a harsh mistress.

I wasn't feeling bad in the first place. Just some constructive criticism.

Im pretty shure its curceing in general otherwize your just stabing in the dark and dont realy set a line people shouldent cross.I put in what i think is eazu for people to read and get.And i do give detail when asked.The problem is after more detail is given people start sending me stuff that the detail did not describe.

As for the poast in general it is spam due to the fact that it was not in responce to the request at hand but more or less to vent your personal feelings about my poasts and in general me.I find your asumptions of me to be rather insulting.For one you dont know me so you cant really judg.And you asume as to how i am over a text that can be taken any way.I dont see how you think ones character can be judged by how one types.you have no clue what mood i might be in as i type it,no idea as to how i vew what iv just put it.As far as you know i was in a bad mood at the time and was just snapy,or overloaded and was tired and realy didnt want to deal with problems causeing one to snap.Anything could be going on at the other side of the keyboard.As far as you know we migh get along under other circumstances.

Thanks for the link ill have a look.

 

[Levi]

Im pretty shure its curceing in general otherwize your just stabing in the dark and dont realy set a line people shouldent cross.

Refer to item #9: http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/90-forum-rules/page__pid__431#entry431

I put in what i think is eazu for people to read and get.And i do give detail when asked.The problem is after more detail is given people start sending me stuff that the detail did not describe.

Fair enough.

I find your asumptions of me to be rather insulting.

I'm sorry.

For one you dont know me so you cant really judg.And you asume as to how i am over a text that can be taken any way.I dont see how you think ones character can be judged by how one types.you have no clue what mood i might be in as i type it,no idea as to how i vew what iv just put it.As far as you know i was in a bad mood at the time and was just snapy,or overloaded and was tired and realy didnt want to deal with problems causeing one to snap.Anything could be going on at the other side of the keyboard.As far as you know we migh get along under other circumstances.

True, true. I hope we can get along.

Thanks for the link ill have a look.

You're Welcome.

 

[Νύξ]

Refer to item #9: http://forums.rpgmak...d__431#entry431

and you think im vauge?how would one describe excessivly?I mean you used a curce twice.But then again im shure the mods would see the lack of a space and dismiss it as a made up word.Its still stabing in the dark and making the line hard to see.Any mod who dislikes one person over another for petty reasons of general not geting along could play some majore power trip(not the song wich rocks).At any rate the curseing was still uncalled for.

You shure the leaves will need to be custome?If so it should be eazy for someone who knows how to custome.I do a little custome.

Take a look at my showcace.Im rather prowd of the stuff i made.

 

[Levi]

and you think im vauge?how would one describe excessivly?I mean you used a curce twice.But then again im shure the mods would see the lack of a space and dismiss it as a made up word.Its still stabing in the dark and making the line hard to see.Any mod who dislikes one person over another for petty reasons of general not geting along could play some majore power trip(not the song wich rocks).

Right?! It'll depend on the people you're with, and the topic... I guess it's up to the Moderators' discretion.

At any rate the curseing was still uncalled for.

Sorry. I wasn't meaning to swear at you... I just use swears to describe things. I've got a potty mouth... haha.

You shure the leaves will need to be custome?If so it should be eazy for someone who knows how to custome.I do a little custome.

I think they will be, but I may be wrong.

Take a look at my showcace.Im rather prowd of the stuff i made.

I'll have to look after I'm done work. The network here blocks most images and videos :*(

 

[Shaz]

Sigh~Ok.I can see its going to be one of "THOSE"topics.

I thought exactly the same thing last night when I read this, and there was only the original post in the thread.

Here's the thing, NYX: YOU know exactly what you want. In your mind, you can see it as clear as day. NOBODY else is in that position. If you expect to get exactly what you need, then you need to go into GREAT detail about it - you need to paint a word picture so others can "see" the same thing you do. Using a few choice keywords is not going to get the right message across. You might expect that an artist SHOULD be able to read your original request and make your sprites, but it doesn't work that way. I'm not an artist, and I already have half a dozen questions that NEED to be answered if you're going to get the sprites you want. It WILL take effort on your part to make sure you provide ALL the needed information, but it takes more effort on the part of an artist to create it, and they don't want to have to do it over and over because you let them make assumptions rather than providing the detail, and they got it wrong. And YOU don't want to have them do it over and over either.

Let's look at your original request:

items blown by the wind

- is it a sheet of paper, a pile of papers, leaves, or sand? What? It's your game, not theirs, so YOU need to decide this.

- is it inside or outside? Where is the breeze coming from? Should they start on the ground, or higher up?

- are they scattered on the ground initially, or are they in a pile? How big is the pile? How many items are scattered?

- is it a BIG gust of wind (will it lift them high into the air) or a breeze that gently moves them from one place to another?

- a box that falls or tumbles is nothing like something light that blows in the wind.

- you will need one sprite for their starting position, another sprite for their ending position, and the sprites for the animations?

broken box

- is the box on the floor, on a table or bench, or up high?

- HOW do the items fall? Do they spill out and fall straight down? How far? Do they fall to the base of the box then roll away from the box? How far?

- what are they - apples, tomatoes, potatoes? Again, YOU need to decide this.

- do you need the actual animation of them falling/rolling, or do you just need the before and after sprites?

Maybe if you explain the events around these animations, it might help. Where are they before, and in what state? What is it that causes the box to break and the items to fall out? All that sort of stuff provides extra detail that the artist WILL need to come up with something close to what you're after. Otherwise, you're just going to get sprite after sprite that isn't what you want, and nobody will be happy.

Now, I would like to point out some things that I would strongly suggest you do, whenever you make requests for sprites. This will prevent all of your requests degenerating into threads that end up with a lot of people being insulted and being locked without your request fulfilled.

• show respect to people who are helping you. If they ask you for clarification, it's not because they're stupid or they're being mean - it's because they WANT to do the sprite for you, but there are gaps in their understanding. Look to see how many ways your request could be interpreted, or ask them for their understanding, to see where you need to provide clarification. If they come across as a bit impatient or even rude, don't turn it into a slanging match. THEY are doing something for YOU. YOU are the one who needs to be more polite.
  
• show respect for the time they are willing to spend. Don't expect them to do it over and over and over until they get it right. Be prepared to put in more work yourself explaining things at the start, to avoid the need for revisions.
  
• "Dont ask about payment for custome sprites.All poasts about being payed will be ignored so dont bother." This is just darn rude. Sprites are not easy, or fast to make. What you are saying here is "I expect you to bend over backwards for me making this, but you should not expect anything in return. The time and effort you put into this means absolutely nothing to me." You are telling people you do not value their time, and then as the thread goes on, you continue to be rude to them. WHY would anyone WANT to create a sprite for you, when you are just rude to them all the time? It's okay to ask for something for free, but don't come in saying you don't value their time and you don't believe they deserve anything in return. Even if I WOULD do something for free, reading that sentence would make me turn around and look for another request to work on, from someone who appreciates others who do things for them. Personally, I would NEVER ask someone to make something for me, without offering payment in return. I value people who are willing to spend their time doing something to help me.
  
• for goodness sake, use a spell checker! I normally don't gripe about this, but your spelling is really, REALLY bad! I'm not being mean, and I don't mean to offend you, but bad spelling and grammar are CONTRIBUTING to the confusion. It takes seconds to run a spell checker over your post. Once more, it's a little way of showing respect to the people who are considering working on your request - one more thing you can do to make it easier for them to understand what you want.
  

Now you could ignore all of the above and get defensive (or offensive) about it, or you could consider that I've probably had one or two people make game assets for me in the past and I might know what I'm talking about. Up to you

 

[Νύξ]

alright for the wind blown:

-All of the ubove if posible

-Start on the ground and i dont see were the question of were the breaze is comeing frome helps.Its just a breaze,Breazes come frome anywere up down left right the whole nine yards.

-Yes the leaves and paper are scattered and the sand is sort of piled.

-No gust i was just thinking something to lift them a bit up maby do a loop if the artist is so inclined,not a big pile a small bit of leaves and maby just three sheats of paper and a small bit of sand that one might just sweep.

-Dont think i ever said they were.im pretty shure i asked for those seporately.

-Well,yes i figured that bit was obvious.A sprites got'a have a start and finish position because just doing all the bits in the midle dont count for anything if they dont have a start and dont have much point if they dont end

Broken box:

-Its just a closed box,i believe i mentioned it can be found in vx tile set c one of the small boxes the opened versions holding fish corn,or what looks like apples to me.

-It starts as a closed box and then breaks open all splintered and messed in a mix of container and contence not far just a broken heap.

-I'd take any between the fish apples and corn but if i could chose only one and the artist had no say in wich he felt like doing id say the apples.

-I need both the fall and the after efects,Falling one tile down then i got a dust animation to cover up the bit were it breaks

Then showing the aftermath but if someone could do a set of it breaking that would be much apreciated.

"Dont ask about payment for custome sprites.All poasts about being payed will be ignored so dont bother." This is just darn rude. Sprites are not easy, or fast to make. What you are saying here is "I expect you to bend over backwards for me making this, but you should not expect anything in return"

Not at all what i was trying to say.Id apreciate less asumption if you dont mind.I put that there because I was going to set this up in faith of genorocity of others.I'm not going to pay.I'll give credit and if someone can "help" they'd have a frend for life.I'd even do them a favore when asked.But I do cut and paist spriteing and i made a few custome character sprites,And it didnt take me more than 20 minuts on any of them,if you count out the parts when i had to leave it for a while to do evorey day stuff.All and all I dont see the point in trying to sell pixle art custome or not.I put that up so anyone looking to"sell" will know beforehand that im not a paying customer.I never say i dont apreciate the effort they take to make it,Im just making it clear that I am not out to buy,Im just asking for help if someone would give it.As for being rude,If thats about what i said to mory,I'v alreddy apologized.I was in a tired mood and wasent in the apropriate frame of mind to deal with people at the timeI'll not be barated over it after I alreddy apologized and acgnolaged I was in the wrong,so you can step off right there frend.

As for the spell checker,Its funny you should mention that,One english is not my first language so yea i know my spelling is bad and i am working on it so please just leave me alone about that,two i have been looking for a spellchecker but the problem is i cant seem to find a site that dosent set my virous scanner off.Last one almost cought me with a trojan virous.If you got a link for one you know to be safe id apreciate it.If not then youl have to put up with my really REALLY bad spelling till i can find one on my own.If you do have a link please send it to me in a pm so as to avoid inadvertant spamming.

I have no doubt you know what your talking about as far as requesting for assets,and dont think i havent reed and understood what your saying,but for future refrences you dont know me,you dont know what i mean when i type what i type so just stop asumeing that i say what i say with entent to insult.Making an asumption about someone like that dosent encourage them to be frendly.Ok?

 

[Lunarea]

Closed at OP's request.