Your favorite (and LEAST favorite) RPG Tropes

[TheRiotInside]

As an aside to those discussing Chrono Trigger and Crono's willingness to be captured and falsely tried/accused, go check out the Youtube video by The Game Theorists about the game. It covers this and a large variety of other aspects of the game. Super interesting stuff.

 

[whitesphere]

Good points on Chrono.  It really is the only thing which makes sense.  He finds out not much later the justice system has been corrupted.

At least in Chrono Trigger, they give a very good justification for why the uber powerful bad guy is so much less powerful when he joins your team.

But I do wonder why the Big Bad didn't use that really powerful, completely lethal cut scene attack, when your party goes to battle him later on...other than the obvious it would be impossible to win.

 

[amerk]

Not in-game, but related to in-game development: When I see a walkthrough for a game, and then a note to the player warning them that the walkthrough may have spoilers (gee, you think?) and that they should try the game without it first, I want to cringe.

Naturally, if I'm using a walkthrough it's because I'm looking for a spoiler, as in how to accomplish a specific task. And I can judge for myself whether or not I want to play the game first.

 

[Kes]

@amerk

How true, how very true.

 

[Alexander Amnell]

Naturally, if I'm using a walkthrough it's because I'm looking for a spoiler, as in how to accomplish a specific task. And I can judge for myself whether or not I want to play the game first.

    While I agree with this I understand the reasons behind it. After all, the common sense that should tell a person that a carton of eggs might contain eggs within it didn't stop some idiot who was allergic to them from suing (and winning no less!) based on the fact that there was no warning to steer him away from said products. So now, said egg cartons contain the warning of "this product may contain eggs." fricking seriously! I also suspect that the "This product may cause severe eye irritation" warning on the cans of pepper spray that my daughter carries in her purse exist for a similar reason. People are really stupid these days and judges/lawyers are no exception, maybe at some point someone sued over emotional losses that occurred due to said spoilering, made a couple easy mil and forced the walkthrough writers to disclaim it. Either that, or they realized that if they didn't disclaim it, sooner or later it would happen. Because again, people are getting really stupid these days, especially where lawsuits are concerned.

 

[Engr. Adiktuzmiko]

Yeah... like that article about the new RH law in our country which showcased a girl blaming the government saying that because the law didn't get passed earlier, she got pregnant... and most people who commented was like: "You know that having sex can make you pregnant, now you're blaming the government? 0.0"


I guess next time they're gonna put up that disclaimer on trailers too, be it trailers for video games, movies etc...

 

[Diretooth]

Insurmountable Waist High Fence. http://mysticalpha.deviantart.com/art/Jump-184490965

 

[Alexander Amnell]

Insurmountable Waist High Fence. http://mysticalpha.deviantart.com/art/Jump-184490965

I can tolerate this one to some extent, but when the developers are to lazy to even put the insurmountable waist high fence in there and leave the player strolling towards a clearly surmountable meadow one moment and then randomly performing the running man in place with nothing in his/her path to be seen then they've gone to far! At least with the fence you realize after playing for a little while that the fences cannot be climbed. It's really hard to predict what parts of the air around you is solid versus what parts can be safely walked through like normal, what with it being invisible and all.

 

[amerk]

    While I agree with this I understand the reasons behind it. After all, the common sense that should tell a person that a carton of eggs might contain eggs within it didn't stop some idiot who was allergic to them from suing (and winning no less!) based on the fact that there was no warning to steer him away from said products. So now, said egg cartons contain the warning of "this product may contain eggs." fricking seriously! I also suspect that the "This product may cause severe eye irritation" warning on the cans of pepper spray that my daughter carries in her purse exist for a similar reason. People are really stupid these days and judges/lawyers are no exception, maybe at some point someone sued over emotional losses that occurred due to said spoilering, made a couple easy mil and forced the walkthrough writers to disclaim it. Either that, or they realized that if they didn't disclaim it, sooner or later it would happen. Because again, people are getting really stupid these days, especially where lawsuits are concerned.

Or the lady who sued McDonald's because her coffee was hot and she burned her lips.

Bill Engvall said it best to these kind of people: "Here's your sign."

 

[Sharm]

To be honest these people aren't actually that stupid, they just see a chance to get some money and go for it. Often they are self educated lawyers who sue people for a living. Usually they only win these cases because the judge dislikes the company or capitalism in general and wants to punish the defendant regardless of what's actually fair. This is also how you get cases like the one where a man trying to rob someone's house was able to sue for damages because he fell through the roof and injured himself. As for the McDonald's lady, from what I understand they had the temp way above what it should have been, to the point where she almost boiled her lips off. I can see why that would be a problem.


To get back on topic, I love playing characters who find they have some special hidden power and are chosen in some way. It reinforces the reasoning why they should be the ones saving the day and makes me feel special and powerful as I play.

 

[Touchfuzzy]

I would point out in the McDonalds case that the lawsuit was because she suffered 3rd degree burns over 6% of her body and lesser burns over another 16%, she spent 8 days in the hospital, had to get skin grafts and had a further 2 years of medical treatment as a result.


I honestly don't think any substance I'm intended to put in my mouth should be served at temperatures hot enough to send me to the hospital.

 

[Diretooth]

Blue and Orange Morality: One of my favorite morality spectrums, because then you have an interesting race with a strange moral structure, like bacon is good and neckties are bad.

 

[Chaos Avian]

"You are the only ones trying to save the world. No else even tries."

THIS. WHY?? Why can't we have we have a Lord of The Rings final clash or something? At least ONE army helping you out xD

 

[Engr. Adiktuzmiko]

Either they're too busy or they're too afraid to help you. They will be like: "the players will save us anyways"


Lolz

 

[Sharm]

As I recall there were a bunch of soldiers tried to help you early on in Chrono Trigger, but they died so quickly it was like "stop helping and maybe some of you will survive." Which is why Chrono Cross made no sense. Like any army could take on those three. Chrono Cross is a great game but also a really terrible sequel.


In FF6 there was at least one rebel soldier that fought with you but he was so under-leveled that it became a protection run instead of a decent NPC companion.


I think there are more examples like this but I can't remember them. Usually if there are soldiers on your side it just saves everyone a whole lot of trouble if they don't end up fighting with you. I agree though, a nice big epic battle with your army buddies would be cool. Or at least a big fight scene and then you go to a quieter corner of the battlefield and fight the magical enemy that powers everything from behind the scenes or something.


Man, my memory of these games is getting weak, I need to replay them.

 

[amerk]

In the Legion Saga games for RM2K3, you got to control army battles from time to time in addition to the typical turn-based. It gave the game's story a bit more oomph to it, because it made the game feel a bit more epic, and that there was more than a traditional foursome party at stake.

Of course, you also got to recruit for your side, and as a result you had multiple party members, so you never had to use the same party too often.