Your Next Adventure Awaits: RPG Maker MZ Trailer #1

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I agree with you about social media being a plague but here we are talking about people judging a book without even reading it, lol.
I can understand the complaints about the marketing strategy, not even I approve it very much.
Although people saying: Oh, it's just MV ACE! (like you say not a bad thing) with the very limited infos we all have makes me remember why I chose to be a villain in first place.
 

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I think people also tend to forget how good Ace was compared to VX. Ace was the first RPG Maker Engine to be released after I started working with Degica, and I remember how exciting the previews were.

But like, VX to VX Ace:
Multiple tilesets
RegionID
Shadow Tool
Traits system
Directional passability
Formula box for skills

And that is just off the top of my head.

VX Ace was actually a dramatic improvement over VX. To the point that I can't believe I ever used something as clunky as VX.
 

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@Dalph I'm not even 100% sure what some of these people were expecting. An expansive 3D library of RTP assets? I mean, some of the Twitter comments do nothing but harp on about the stock art and it not being 3D, so I'm guessing that's what they wanted. Not sure why they thought RPG Maker was the product for them if that's the case, though.

Some of the other comments are just "Lolololol It looks exactly like MV. No buy!" Then again, MV got a similar hostile reception from some users. I wasn't around when Ace first released, so I have no idea if people were being as hostile and negative about that.
 

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Also some more things that are funny to me. I went back to look at our stuff for VX Ace when it was releasing. Posts related to the VX Ace release:

Announce: Jan 13th
First Preview: Feb 7th.
Second Preview: Feb 13th
Third Preview: Feb 21st
Announce of Preorder start and Release Date: Feb 21st
Preorder Start: March 1st
Release Date: March 15th.

The time between the first announce and the first actual preview is.... actually near identical to this release. And actual full information was dropped 1 big announce every week after the previews started.

I don't remember nearly the backlash back then either.
 

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You know, I get that people don't like the marketing, but can people at least wait until all the information is out is out before they start talking about how "This isn't worth it, this is garbage, etc."

I do get it guys. If I had 100% control of the marketing, I probably wouldn't have done it this way either.

But it's not fun for this whole thread to turn into people bashing on something as though what has been shown so far is everything.
Well, I don't mean to bash the italian translation, but in MZ MV but it is really horrible. I'd really like to be able to improve it.
 

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Oof, in MV sorry - I haven't had my coffee yet. If it is gonna be the same in MZ, then you have a problem.
I can check in on Monday to see what we can do about this when the JP team is back in office. I don't doubt that some of the translations are below standard. It's a problem when you have no one that speaks the language fluently internally. A lot of translation companies are quite honestly garbage (Like the one that apparently translated the Steam page to English for MZ before I edited it to death... get ready to be wowed), and if you can't proof it because you can't read it, it makes it difficult to catch when they are garbage.
 

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I can check in on Monday to see what we can do about this when the JP team is back in office. I don't doubt that some of the translations are below standard. It's a problem when you have no one that speaks the language fluently internally. A lot of translation companies are quite honestly garbage (Like the one that apparently translated the Steam page to English for MZ before I edited it to death... get ready to be wowed), and if you can't proof it because you can't read it, it makes it difficult to catch when they are garbage.
I can provide excellent translation services, being fully qualified and with experience. Just sayin' ;)

Get ready to be wowed wasn't a bad translation, it was pure marketing gold. :p
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For sure! I still remember having to use external programs to swap tilesets in VX. Good ol' days.
 

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I don't remember nearly the backlash back then either.
To be fair, we were scattered around. And in early 2012 was the time the forum founded.
Not many people gathered together in the same place to get hyped together and to complain. They don't know where to complain or to even know that they're the victim of drip marketing.

I don't exactly remember when was the first time when VXAce was first being announced.
Probably because I was still a naughty kid who just sit and wait for the pirated ver during that time.
 

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I can check in on Monday to see what we can do about this when the JP team is back in office. I don't doubt that some of the translations are below standard. It's a problem when you have no one that speaks the language fluently internally. A lot of translation companies are quite honestly garbage (Like the one that apparently translated the Steam page to English for MZ before I edited it to death... get ready to be wowed), and if you can't proof it because you can't read it, it makes it difficult to catch when they are garbage.
I guess it's the same team (or bot ?) that did the french translation, because it's pretty much as bad as was the english one before you're edited it (and we still have the french equivalent of "get ready to be wowed" at the end of every section). Maybe you should submit those to be readproof on the forum, I'm sure any native speaker can write something better. :LZSlol:
 
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